Contaced a Factory in China about producing a run of fully populated Mini-migs

[whiteb]

And I am still waiting for PCB's from Nusim.

[Crom00]

$20 USD there is a sega master system clone with 2 PSX controllers (without rumble or analog controls, but with db-9 conectors),

Has anyone verified that these PS1 Style db9 contollers work with Amigas? If so I can get them costed in China. My agent can probably find out who makes them and do a small run.

[tonyyeb]

Crom00 wrote:

$20 USD there is a sega master system clone with 2 PSX controllers (without rumble or analog controls, but with db-9 conectors),

Has anyone verified that these PS1 Style db9 contollers work with Amigas? If so I can get them costed in China. My agent can probably find out who makes them and do a small run.

Maybe get the Minimigs first then look at controllers... please!

[Crom00]

Maybe get the Minimigs first then look at controllers... please!

Much like the Amiga we can multitask with low overhead and resources. LOL!

[little]

Has anyone verified that these PS1 Style db9 contollers work with Amigas?

I have not checked, but chances are they are wired like the Megadrive/Master System/MSX/x68000, so they are not 100% compatible with Amiga/Atari ST/C64 (+5 volts and Ground are in diferent pins). Changing the pins solves that problem, but only gives access to 3 buttons, to allow more buttons to work it would require to implement this diagram (which adds cd32 functionality for 6 extra buttons for a total of 9 buttons; the 10th button could be used to enable/disable autofire, I suppose)



Information gatthered from here:

http://dk.aminet.net/docs/hard/appe_v32.lha

edit: Here is a clear diagram of how to implement it:

[jorkany]

Reducing costs is paramount for US toy companies. The low cost of munufacturing in Asia, allows US firms to have elaborate stateside showroom trade show displays, big ad budgets, and take care of the US employees, managers and executives.

It also allows US companies to circumvent state and federal manufacturing regulations, which is why the cost is so much less in China. IMO, companies that produce overseas and sell in the US should be paying fines equal to what they would receive if they circumvented regulations here in the US - that is, the loophole should be closed.

[whiteb]

jorkany wrote:

Reducing costs is paramount for US toy companies. The low cost of munufacturing in Asia, allows US firms to have elaborate stateside showroom trade show displays, big ad budgets, and take care of the US employees, managers and executives.

It also allows US companies to circumvent state and federal manufacturing regulations, which is why the cost is so much less in China. IMO, companies that produce overseas and sell in the US should be paying fines equal to what they would receive if they circumvented regulations here in the US - that is, the loophole should be closed.

You mean, like Walmart continuing to sell Lead based Thongs (FlipFlops) despite people being *SEVERELY* burned.  Even going as far as Marking them down to $2 instead of Recalling them ?

They eventually did, after several months.

[freqmax]

Interesting products that Poisonmart have. I heard Fraudmart promise unusual customer satisfaction on their products :crazy:

[Crom00]

UPDATE:

We are working to get 2 functional units made, after that we have a quote to get 10 test units made up on the same production line that would make MORE Mini-Migs. The cost for such a low run comes out to about +/- $200 per unit plus shipping. These numbers come down with higher volume runs.
A small amount from sale of each board would go to the kickstart bounty.

As for costs on a production run that depends on quantity of the run, and all the hidden costs that come up, still getting quotes back on all that.

Is there enough interest here for an initial run of 10 test units? $200 saves you the time and insanity of soldering your own components, I tried this... not fun.

These are best described as TEST /BETA UNITS and are great to draw up a compatiblity list. As early adopters you would be paving the way for future productin runs.

Any thoughts...?

FOR THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED:
Factory would need the funds up front so would you guys be willing to pay up front? Delivery time would be 3-5 weeks from turnover of funds. IF by chance you ARE interested PM me your info with: "MINI-MIG BETA BOARD" in the subject heading and if this develops further I'll have your contact info.  
 

[Tomas]

$200 would be a bit too much for me currently.. i would probably go upto $150 personally, so i hope the price comes down a bit when/if you do a larger run.

[tonyyeb]

$200 for a beta sounds very encouraging. PM Sent to be added to the list.

[AJCopland]

PM sent, anything to help get this production moving!
I'm still waiting on parts for my first home built one so it'll be interesting to see which one gets done first! :-D

Andy

[RW222]

Alas my desire for aquisitions exceeds my supply of latinum...

But for those of us that would jump in and buy excess stock when we had excess cash...

How complete is complete? Just got a little confused 'coz there was talk of cases and joypads etc. and $200 sounds a little on the high side for it. Guess that's due to amortising setup costs over small number of units.

[downix]

Give me a few weeks and I could swing $200.

[Crom00]

RW222 wrote:

How complete is complete? Just got a little confused 'coz there was talk of cases and joypads etc.  

Mentioned estimated costs and the idea of costing out controller. We were very carefull NOT to mention those items are inlcuded.

A fully realized console would require LOTS volume. This is a limtited run of just the board, as you understand 10 units is too low a run to get everyone the low cost unit we all want with all the bells and whistles.

So we're clear no plans to include a case or controller.

This is for  developers and early adopters, I suggest waiting for a production run if/when that happpens for a lower cost item.

[whiteb]

Okay, so what we are talking about here, for all those that are interested, will be a FULLY POPPED board, but without a case ? and controller, meaning without any Joysticks and stuff.

Just the board, with all the components.

Batteries not included

[edit] and for those waiting for parts and stuff from the UK, during the Postal industrial action.... (Myself included)./

British high court has *JUST* ruled any more strikes are *OUTLAWED*.