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I tell you, having an Amiga game player that I can connect to a Modern HDTV with a dvi-vga port at 31 klhz is good enough for me. No more unsghtly flicker fixers.

How many games do you run in interlace?
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Good point, none!
VGA monitors at low-res still provide a great picture and few manufactures make HDTV(LCDTV) that can do 15.75 klhz. Getting away from a 1084 style monitor was a pain. The best solution I had was the Toshiba Timm...20" CRT that did VGA, and AMiga 15.75 klhz.

 

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Crom00 wrote:
I tell you, having an Amiga game player that I can connect to a Modern HDTV with a dvi-vga port at 31 klhz is good enough for me. No more unsghtly flicker fixers.

How many games do you run in interlace?


I plugged my CD32/SX32 into my "HD ready" TV (using S-video) and was happy to find that it took care of the flickering just nicely all on it self, I could even run Workbench and DPaint in the oddball high-res super-interlaced (1364x572 with overscan, iirc) without flicker - amazing :-D
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Is there anyone on this thread that has assembled a working Mini-Mig?

If so would you like to assemble another? We will need 2 assembled Mini-Migs. Although there are folks here that can do the work we understand that they're quite busy with school or work,etc.

If there is anyone out there with the time and technical expertise or an assembled board they would sell us, please PM me with costs.

Factory is advising that a working protoype is ideal for costing and pre-production purposes. They can make one themselves but it will take longer.

They are currently on national holiday and will be back Oct 8th.  If we could get them a working sample shortly after that we would be in a good place, knocking off a couple of weeks of any future schedule.

Thanks for all the help and support so far...
 

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I cant see why I couldn't do it, I got 5 boards on order (Being fabbed) but the FPGA's are on Backorder till the end of October.

I'll have to sit down and do some sums (And see if my Soldering person will accept just a couple of boards), but it will be AT LEAST 100 quid each.
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Be careful of giving working prototypes to Chinese companies if you don't have a contract or own a copyright.
Chinese electronics firms have been known to copy and mimick items which have then been seen for sale at a vastly reduced rate.
 

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Chinese electronics firms have been known to copy and mimick items which have then been seen for sale at a vastly reduced rate.


Isn't that a good thing with Minimig.

It's open source you know!

We are talking Dennis van Weeren not Steve Jobs!  :-D
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Also looking forward to seeing the prices....
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Be careful of giving working prototypes to Chinese companies if you don't have a contract or own a copyright.
Chinese electronics firms have been known to copy and mimick items which have then been seen for sale at a vastly reduced rate.



The design is open source, as long as they release the sources on any future work or revisions they're golden.

Low Cost Chinese "Mini-Mig Mc68000 developer boards" that happen to run our favorite retro computer games can only be a good thing.
 :roll:

The design is open source so no-one save Dennis can claim onwership on the design.

We are just trying to take the lead and get somethig out there as it seems there is no way of running our old game libraries other than aging Amigas and PC emulation.

I just destroyed a pristine A1200 motherboard in a botched hard drive swap operation... Something I've done 1000 times.

Dealing with aging hardware is just too risky and expensive, I'm tired of scouring craiglslist and ebay.
We have to move forward.

 
 

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Chinese electronics firms have been known to copy and mimick items which have then been seen for sale at a vastly reduced rate.

That would be the best thing to happen to the amiga community in a decade, having low cost amiga clones. I just went to a local supermarket and for less than $20 USD there is a sega master system clone with 2 PSX controllers (without rumble or analog controls, but with db-9 conectors), a light gun, a game cartridge with several games and an AC/DC converter. I have no idea of the retail price of a mass produced minimig, but I would bet it will be in the $50-$99 range. My only fear is that there will be time to further improve the 1.1 design (so no extra/faster RAM or UHC124 or battery backed RTC will be added).

 

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Eclipse wrote:
Be careful of giving working prototypes to Chinese companies if you don't have a contract or own a copyright.
Chinese electronics firms have been known to copy and mimick items which have then been seen for sale at a vastly reduced rate.


Come on, you cant tell me that Dennis does not have intellectual property rights on the minimig ?

After all, Dennis released it to the community in a way called OpenSource.

If the Chinese can take ONE or Two popped Minimigs, and churn out 10,000+ are you REALLY against that ?  I do not think you would complain.  Just remember, the board is based around one specific FPGA, are there currently 10,000 spare Units ?, definitely not at Digikey there is not.
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Hi,
Being open source then I have to agree it's a good thing. I was just worried about someone making a profit from other peoples work.
Whatever pushes this forward is a good thing, and the OP is in my opinion doing the right thing. It was just a word of caution, nothing more.
 

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I was just worried about someone making a profit from other peoples work.

Should I give you the phone number of your nearest dealer that sells x86 computers preloaded with linux? Those barbarians have yet to give a penny to linux torvalds, I am pretty sure you can vent your righteous anger upon those heartless capitalists  :lol:
 

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Oh come on give him a break, I can see where he is coming from, but thats why Dennis released it to "The community".

To develop it in any way they see fit, as long as Dennis get a mention in recognition for his efforts.
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Getting info back from the factory now we're talking about order quantities. Lookin good guys! hang in there...


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Re: Contaced a Factory in China about producing a run of fully populated Mini-migs
« Reply #119 from previous page: October 10, 2007, 03:46:05 PM »
And I am still waiting for PCB's from Nusim.

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