Contaced a Factory in China about producing a run of fully populated Mini-migs

[freqmax]

Crom00 wrote:
power supply or abs plastic case.

I think power supply and plastic case is something most users can provide easily. A populated SMD board is however the key.

Crom00 wrote:
Imainge a container loaded with Min-Migs held at customs because of a lawsuit. Ugghhh...

One could setup operations outside of jurisdiction where Amiga Inc wants to sue. Or simple just put pressure directly on Amiga Inc directly to not persue.

Piru wrote:
@amigadave
Interestingly Mattel sorry for 'design flaws'

Ofcourse they are sorry. They want to continue business with China :-D ,That excuse just smells political pressure all the way.

@little:

No you don't, I remember someone hacked an USB port into his (unaccelerated) A1200 and it worked albeit it did not reached the maximum USB 1.1 speeds, but IDE would be just as slow.

How will a game for A500 OCS that expect say an Amiga keyboard, and not an usb one interface?, Some hardware will have to translate, and the m68k will be 100% busy with the game software.

[Vlabguy1]

Finding items NOT made in China is difficult..but not impossible.  At times its
frustrating..but I have gotten good at it :-)..and Im pretty proud of the fact
that I have been able to do it.  I do not compromise..If its made in China I find the same item made elsewhere.  I have avoiding China Made items for quite sometime!!
One example of the difficulty Im having is finding a "Non-China" made camera bag for my new D-SLR + lenes that I bought..but I will find one
..as far as other forums..mmm..a few months ago I posted the same
claim on the camera forum I frequent :-).  
Not sure how else I can prove it..other than taking a phot of everthing I own and its "Made in" tag..which Im not going to do ..but you can pick an item..I may have and I will take a pic of the made in tag. if you really want me to..

I always say proof is in the pudding..
Stores to avoid:
Walmart(havent been in the store in many many years)
Target(havent been in the store)
any Dollar store( I have never been in one but I can image the crap they sell)
Oh and another side note that MOST not all consumers are NOT really smart they just go for whats in front of them ..if you know what I mean.  I can go on and on..
but back on topic..are these MiniMigs avail forsale?

Rich
ny

LoadWB wrote:

Vlabguy1 wrote:
I stand by my statement..about China..

I havent bought a thing from China in about 10years perhaps longer and I dont plan on starting now. Even if it is an Amiga or MiniMig..

I'd personally like to know how you managed that.  I have seen recent reports of people deliberately trying to avoid China-made products and finding that it is virtually impossible.  So, if you wouldn't mind backing up your claim, I'd like to see it in another forum.  Perhaps your experience can enlighten, educate, and encourage others to do the same.

[little]

How will a game for A500 OCS that expect say an Amiga keyboard, and not an usb one interface?, Some hardware will have to translate, and the m68k will be 100% busy with the game software.

As I undestand it, adding a USB 1.1 interface or a Wifi interface would necesarily need extra hardware (as in "one chip that deals with that interface") unless you limit the USB interface to only slow devices (like mice, keyboard and joystick which are redundante in the minimig).

[Crom00]

I tell you, having an Amiga game player that I can connect to a Modern HDTV with a dvi-vga port at 31 klhz is good enough for me. No more unsghtly flicker fixers. Like the whole cheap PC keyboard option. Beats scouring ebay for Amiga keyboards.

Ideally would LOVE to have an AGA version with a VGA graphics chipset, pci interface (for usd, ethernet, etc) and Picasso96 so that old productivity software can run on a future version.

[Fraccy]

@ Vlabguy1:

Hey, way to go! Someone else who stands by their principles!

I've also been avoiding Chinese-made goods for years now. It takes some effort; most consumers don't bother. But I disagree enough with the Chinese government's (and many people's) utter disregard for human and animal rights; invasion of Tibet; policies regarding Taiwan; etc, to actively boycott their goods.

And I'm very, very surprised at the lemming-like thinking that afflicts Western economies. Greed. Apathy. Insanity...

BTW, if you're looking for a good SLR bag (as I was a few weeks ago), go for a Billingham (www.billingham.co.uk). Expensive, but you get what you pay for: superb quality, functionality, reputation - and made in the UK!

Finally, why not contract out to Taiwan?

[freqmax]

Now a Taiwan outsourcing is something China certainly will frown upon :-)

Btw, seems .ch support both Burma & North Korea..

[Vlabguy1]

Fraccy,

Thanks for the post, and glad to read that you also avoid chinese made products..and for some of the same I do.  Also thanks for the camera
bag link.  I did check them out, they are really nice bags, and for the
most part price is not an option with me.  Looking for a backpack
style with a laptop(17') compartment.   There are some other bags
that I like on the site and will prob. end up ordering from them :-).

Rich
ny

Fraccy wrote:
@ Vlabguy1:

Hey, way to go! Someone else who stands by their principles!

I've also been avoiding Chinese-made goods for years now. It takes some effort; most consumers don't bother. But I disagree enough with the Chinese government's (and many people's) utter disregard for human and animal rights; invasion of Tibet; policies regarding Taiwan; etc, to actively boycott their goods.

And I'm very, very surprised at the lemming-like thinking that afflicts Western economies. Greed. Apathy. Insanity...

BTW, if you're looking for a good SLR bag (as I was a few weeks ago), go for a Billingham (www.billingham.co.uk). Expensive, but you get what you pay for: superb quality, functionality, reputation - and made in the UK!

Finally, why not contract out to Taiwan?

[shoggoth]

Vlabguy1 wrote:
Why would you contact China..everything they make is CRAP!!
Why not the U.S.??  

Ah. I take it you're from the US and that you're not in the electronics business.

You're excused, you don't know better. That's ok.

-- Peter

[dammy]

One could argue that they would use the DMCA (or whatever legal grounds possible)and claim that the device promotes pirating of the Amiga IP, threatens Amiga patents, and promotes piracy etc. though use of the kickstart roms and ADF files, etc.

Cloanto's AF would solve legal issues.  Porting AROS to Minimig would cut out AI off from any grounds for complaints. If Minimig not using any IP from AI (logos, trademarks, etc), I doubt AI is going to give a rat's ass.  This won't even reach their RADAR because it's not what they are attempting to make money from.

OTOH, Minimig drawing Amiga folks away from AI entirely would probably make AI a very happy company.  Afterall look at the Kent Sporting Arena fiasco with "our" finger prints all over it. If we all go away and focus on Minimig vs AI, would probably make AI a bunch of happy campers.

Dammy

[Vlabguy1]

Ah..but you are wrong..as I am in the Electronic biz. :-)..
And just to clarify..what does being in the US have to do with
anything?  ..Do you think Im some "Pro American"...?or..maybe
cuz I suggested a company in the US build the MiniMig?

I will answer both..just in case :-)
First Im NOT some "Pro American"....Pretty much the only reason
why I suggested the US is because there are plenty of small
PCB manufactures out there that Im sure would love to do the
job..and I deal with one of them in the past and a current project.
Somewhere, where one has a sense of pride in what they are doing.
Chances are that the PCB manufacture has atleast heard of the AMIGA
before...Same with someone in Europe for that matter.
Not sure what the price point would be but Im sure I could find out!

Heck manucature the MiniMigs in Europe..And actually I dont care
where they are made..but if its china I very doubt that I would buy
one.  Now if someone gave one to me thats a different story. :-)
Perhaps the CB will be made In Country..then shipped to China
to be Stuffed??  
I dont really know the particulars of the MiniMig..but if that is the case
I would buy all the chips and stuff the board myself..

shoggoth wrote:

Vlabguy1 wrote:
Why would you contact China..everything they make is CRAP!!
Why not the U.S.??  

Ah. I take it you're from the US and that you're not in the electronics business.

You're excused, you don't know better. That's ok.

-- Peter

[little]

Not sure what the price point of a minimig 1.1 would be but Im sure I could find out!

We will await your price quote, here are the schematics:

http://home.hetnet.nl/~weeren001/downloads/minimig11_schematics.pdf

:-D

[Vlabguy1]

Thanks for the pdf.  will see what I can do.. And post any and all info
regarding the matter.


Rich
ny

little wrote:

Not sure what the price point of a minimig 1.1 would be but Im sure I could find out!

We will await your price quote, here are the schematics:

http://home.hetnet.nl/~weeren001/downloads/minimig11_schematics.pdf

:-D

[tonyyeb]

Guys can we keep this thread on topic instead of bashing various countries manaufacturing standards.

Thanks

[Vlabguy1]

I agree..I tried to do that..in a previous post..
When will we know what the Chinese manufacturer..says about making
these boards..

tonyyeb wrote:
Guys can we keep this thread on topic instead of bashing various countries manaufacturing standards.

Thanks

[persia]

Make it on pluto for all I care, just make it.

[tonyyeb]

persia wrote:
Make it on pluto for all I care, just make it.

Couldn't agree more!!!