Debian 4.0 Etch

[Agafaster]

Just bought a mag with a DVD of Etch on it - mainly cos it also included the PowerPC build along with the usual x86 (and an AMD64 one but thats irrelevant for me).

My question - has anyone got Etch to install on the AmigaOne yet ? if so, what do I need to a) do b) watch out for ? I presume I'll have to get a custom A1 version of the 2.6 kernel for the A1 and install that by hand...

anyone ?

[Piru]

It beats me why anyone would install debian from DVD. Everyone and their 2nd cousing have fast dsl these days, netinstall is your friend... If you can boot the intaller from DVD, you can netinstall, too.

[Agafaster]

yeah, well, my 2nd cousin might well have dsl, but his 2nd cousin (me) doesnt - as he is forced to use dialup still, in this the 21st century !
Dont fancy netinstall at 56kb/s....

[orange]

IIRC etch is stable? in that case I'd recommend you get TESTING version, because it is much much better. For eg. you cannot install ntfs3g on stable because of some dependencies.

[Agafaster]

I believe so, yes - still, its more recent than my current install (which I hardly use btw - its mainly to fiddle with - keep me hand in so to speak !) which is 3.0 - woody or potato, IIRC.

as long as I can mount Amiga FFS volumes, and view sites that Ibrowse can't cope with, I'm happy !

[jj]

Dial-up its not like you live in the sticks.  How come ?

[Agafaster]

short answer ?

CA$H !!


long answer - three kids, two of which need school shoes every 5 minutes, and a luddite for a spouse, who thinks t'internet is overrated. till she wants me to look something up, or email some photos !

although, that may be about to change, with new rules at work on payments for standby officers :-)

[jj]

How much you paying for dial-up

my broadband works out ccheaper than dial-up ever was

[Varthall]

I have heard of people having successfully upgraded from Woody to Etch, and that I guess it's the easiest way to install it.

Varthall

[Agafaster]

JJ wrote:
How much you paying for dial-up

my broadband works out ccheaper than dial-up ever was

penny a minute at weekends, penny and a half for the same on week evenings.
TBH I dont go on that much, these days (no time ! got into Heroes on DVD) but I rarely spend more than 15 quid a month - often a tenner a month.

Varthall Wrote:
I have heard of people having successfully upgraded from Woody to Etch, and that I guess it's the easiest way to install it.

I guess that's what I'll do then - I guess I'll need something better than a 2.4 kernel won't I ? Is Ross Vumbaca still maintaining AmigaOne Linux kernels ?

[jj]

So your paying £10 - £11 a month to BT for your line rental.

and then £10 - £15 a month on internet

with talktalk for example.  £21 a month all in, for up to 8mb.  No bt line rental. free calls to landlines all day annd night and weekends.

Seriously look into talktalk and someother comapnies like tiscali, will work out cheaper

[Agafaster]

JJ wrote:
So your paying £10 - £11 a month to BT for your line rental.

nope - £30 quid all in phone and TV with Virgin Cable.
All me UK geographical numbers are included.

and then £10 - £15 a month on internet

yeah, I pay extra for those cos its an 0845 number - Abelgratis, as it happens.

with talktalk for example.  £21 a month all in, for up to 8mb.  No bt line rental. free calls to landlines all day annd night and weekends.

Seriously look into talktalk and someother comapnies like tiscali, will work out cheaper

I've already looked into it believe me !
there's not just the subs charges, but intial set up, etc. to be outlayed.

[Varthall]

Varthall Wrote:
I have heard of people having successfully upgraded from Woody to Etch, and that I guess it's the easiest way to install it.

I guess that's what I'll do then - I guess I'll need something better than a 2.4 kernel won't I ? Is Ross Vumbaca still maintaining AmigaOne Linux kernels ?

No, the current maintainer is Geri, he does still put new kernels on the amigaone-linux homepage. I'm not sure, but I guess you can use both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels with Etch, althought the latter is recommended. You should install 2.6 kernel only *after* you have upgraded to Etch (or Sarge), though. I hope that someone will write an updated Debian installer, someday.

Varthall

[Agafaster]

No, the current maintainer is Geri, he does still put new kernels on the amigaone-linux homepage. I'm not sure, but I guess you can use both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels with Etch, althought the latter is recommended. You should install 2.6 kernel only *after* you have upgraded to Etch (or Sarge), though. I hope that someone will write an updated Debian installer, someday.

Ta, I'll bear that in mind - actually the disk I have is supposed to have a nifty installer on it anyway.

-edit- actually, its probably only for PowerMacs (PCI ones) so might not work out of the tin on an A1.

[Varthall]

Agafaster wrote:
Ta, I'll bear that in mind - actually the disk I have is supposed to have a nifty installer on it anyway.

-edit- actually, its probably only for PowerMacs (PCI ones) so might not work out of the tin on an A1.

Indeed, the only installer that works on A1 is the one for Woody, from Vumbaca's. There have been some attempts to officialize the A1 kernel and its installer, I don't know how this has ended.

Varthall