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Remote amiga software?
« on: September 06, 2007, 01:29:39 AM »
Hey All,

I was wondering if there were ever any kind of remote desktop software for controlling an Amiga from a PC.

I bought the Siamese RTG system years ago but my CD is now unreadable.

I scanned Aminet with no luck.
 

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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2007, 02:19:44 AM »
You may be looking for this:

http://www.hd-zone.com/rdesktop/rdesktop.htm


cheers



edit -- actually, maybe not, this may only be amiga -> PC.


edit#2 -- Looks like it should be possible using VNC.


 

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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2007, 03:37:38 AM »
I think a VNC server is your only option. Look for AmiVNC.
 

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Re: Remote amiga software?
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2007, 06:22:14 AM »
Suppose you could run Linux (or Amix?) on the Amiga and use standard Unix network based remote stuff, but that's probably not what you're after hehe...

I think it might matter if the other end is going to be a PC or another Amiga.
 

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Re: Remote amiga software?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2007, 07:24:12 AM »
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spihunter wrote:
Hey All,

I was wondering if there were ever any kind of remote desktop software for controlling an Amiga from a PC.
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I just got the full versions of RDesktop (68k, OS4, MOS) after having donated 25 Canadian $ to the project.

I want to use it just the other way round: for controlling my XPpro-PC from my Amiga 4000 PPC.

As far as I understood the manual, RDesktop just works to control a PC from the Amiga side - monitor, keyboard, mouse and sound are redirected.

For controlling the Miggy from the PC you will need VNC, as someone already mentioned, but this does not support sound redirection, AFAIK.

Currently I'm still trying to open a connection successfully - all I get up to now is "Connection Refused".
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EDIT 11-SEP-07:
Connection successfully established - everything is working fine!
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Re: Remote amiga software?
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2007, 09:31:02 AM »
Actually the only thing that would do this is Siamese RTG.
It retargets graphics to a window on a Windows98-PC (and also a WindowsNT PC after hours of fiddling) and works great for everything that is, well - RTG. ;-)

I also have the CD, but sadly it is also unreadable.

I noticed that the CD has no scratches whatsoever and has been burnt to one of those el-cheapo green CD-Rs that roamed the world in the late nineties.

Does anyone have ANY idea of how the data on this disk could be saved - or is Siamese RTG lost forever?


Also, does anyone have this software??
And would you be willing to share it with us unfortunate people with broken CDs?!
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Re: Remote amiga software?
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2007, 12:21:57 PM »
Thanks for your thought everyone.

@Matt_H,

I looked at the docs for AmiVnc and it seems that my 030/aga A1200 might be a bit slow for this. I'm still going to give it a shot.

@Unit21,

Yep, My CD is also one of those cheapo green CD-R's. It sucks because I know I paid well over $100 for it back in 99'. I just won another copy off ebay that I'm waiting for. If it still works I'm going to burn multiple copys of it. Maybe I could put it up on my web site so unfortunate folks could get a new copy?. Not sure if thats illegal or not since the author abandon it long ago?
 

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Re: Remote amiga software?
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2007, 12:42:39 PM »
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Maybe I could put it up on my web site so unfortunate folks could get a new copy?. Not sure if thats illegal or not since the author abandon it long ago?

There is no such thing as abandonware.

It would be legal only after the copyright has expired. It depends on the country, but usually it is about 70 years after the death of the author.

Obviously you could try getting permission from the copyright holder(s) to redristribute the software.
 

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Re: Remote amiga software?
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2007, 12:59:32 PM »
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It would be legal only after the copyright has expired.


Which in all likelihood is well after the media holding the software has expired.

...a thought for another topic I suppose.
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Re: Remote amiga software?
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2007, 02:05:43 PM »
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Maybe I could put it up on my web site so unfortunate folks could get a new copy?. Not sure if thats illegal or not since the author abandon it long ago?

There is no such thing as abandonware.

It would be legal only after the copyright has expired. It depends on the country, but usually it is about 70 years after the death of the author.

Obviously you could try getting permission from the copyright holder(s) to redristribute the software.



For the country I live in, good old Norway, it would be legal for me to obtain an unmodified copy of what was originally on my CD. Yaaaaay for Norway!  :-D

So if someone here can make it available for me I would be happy to supply this person with my SiameseRTG-serial, pictures of myself smiling with the original CD in my hand and of course handsome pay for the cost of distributing the software to me... :-)

On a not completely unrelated matter, does anyone know if the original SiameseRTG people exist?
I could shoot them an email or even a phonecall if it would get me a new CD with the Software.
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Re: Remote amiga software?
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2007, 02:09:50 PM »
@All,

Maybe if my new copy works I could make it available only to people that can prove to me that they have a legit copy?.

I've paid for it twice now! :-?
 

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Re: Remote amiga software?
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2007, 02:25:53 PM »
I distinctly recall having used my Amiga from uni with a VNC client, I'll be damned if i can remember the name of the Amiga VNC server though.

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Re: Remote amiga software?
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2007, 02:39:22 PM »
Well I'll be ... darned!!?

AVNC Server can apparently be found here:

http://dspach.free.fr/amiga/avnc/index.html
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Re: Remote amiga software?
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2007, 02:50:45 PM »
@Unit21

Let me clarify:

IMO morally spihunter has every right to obtain copy to replace his bit-rotten media. However, I don't know if it's legal for him to do so (For example USA and EU have some really dumb laws these days.. nothing to do with moral).

Redistributing the software would be illegal, however (unless if permission was obtained).
 

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Re: Remote amiga software?
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2007, 03:51:25 PM »
@Unit21,

It still requires a 68040 or greater though  :-(

Reason to upgrade my A1200? :-P