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More questions about AHI with my Delfina Card
« on: August 29, 2007, 06:56:49 AM »
I installed AHI version 4.18, I believe, as it was the one with an installer, and I wanted to see where everything went, before I hand installed the
version 6.0

After the install, I tried to run AmigaAMP, but it said it was unable to load the AHI.device. and directed me to run the AHI setup in prefs. It said not to choosed the "Music Device" so I shose device 0 and one of the Delfina Stereo settings from the list and saved, but AmigaAmp still says it cannot load the AHI.device.

I've tried rebooting, and choosing other options from the list, with no joy.

What am I doing wrong?

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Re: More questions about AHI with my Delfina Card
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2007, 03:32:15 PM »
When setting the AHI prefs, make sure to use a HiFi stereo++ mode. Increase the frequency to 48000 and the channels to at least 8. In AHI v4, increasing channels will decrease the overall volume - version 6 corrects this.

What are your versions of delfina.library and delfina.audio?

To upgrade to AHI 6, basically just replace the v4 files with the ones from the v6 distribution. I don't think there are any new ones.

EDIT: Also, which Delfina board is it?
 

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Re: More questions about AHI with my Delfina Card
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2007, 03:56:44 PM »
I think that 44100Khz may be a better idea so the card doesn't have to resample when a mp3 is played (MP3 use 44Khz, not 48).
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Re: More questions about AHI with my Delfina Card
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2007, 06:00:33 PM »
@ Crumb

Most Delfina AHI modes don't support 44.1KHz. Only 16, 27.4, 32, and 48.
 

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Re: More questions about AHI with my Delfina Card
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2007, 07:12:45 PM »
Sorry, the card is the Delfina Lite, it's down there in my signature.

Also, what drivers should be DEVS:AHI folder?
I Have:

Delfina.audio

Paula.audio

Device.audio

Filesave.audio

I know the delfina and Paula should be there, but what about
the other two?

As far as the Delfina Audio and Library files, they would be the versions that came with the archive, which is 4.18

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Re: More questions about AHI with my Delfina Card
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2007, 09:25:25 PM »
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(MP3 use 44Khz, not 48)


MP3s can be 32kHz,44.1kHz or 48kHz.
44.1Khz is most common as it matches the sampling frequency used on audio CDs.
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Re: More questions about AHI with my Delfina Card
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2007, 02:02:20 PM »
Anyone else have any idea why Amp cant load Ahi.device?

I'm getting discouraged here.

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Re: More questions about AHI with my Delfina Card
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2007, 02:16:52 PM »
run SnoopDos to check what is failing

and check if the installer have copied AddAudioModes in Sys:C/

 

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Re: More questions about AHI with my Delfina Card
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2007, 03:23:39 PM »
I recall AmigaAMP being very sensitive to AHI devices already being in use. Is it possible that you've simply got something else blocking the channels?

Or a better idea, is the Delfina being initialized in user-startup? Also look for DelfInit on Aminet as a substitute for the original DelfMem. I've found it to be a little less buggy.

The contents of your Devs:AHI directory are correct. device.audio is designed to be used on AHI's Music Unit to instead point it to use the settings for Unit 0 - it can help with programs that don't specify or allow control over which AHI unit or audiomode to use. Filesave.audio I believe is to write an audio stream to disk. Do you also have DELFINA, PAULA, DEVICE, and FILESAVE in Devs:AudioModes?

Where did you get your install archive? The only stable delfina.library I've found for the Delfina Lite has been 4.16 beta 3 with patch #2. The latest delfina.audio I've found is 4.09. If you can point me to your files I can try them on my system to see if they might be the problem.
 

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Re: More questions about AHI with my Delfina Card
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2007, 05:10:42 AM »
OK, some success to report

I finally got AHI And AmigaAMP to play through the Delfina
card. However every time an MP3 starts to play, the Delfina
Watchdog comes up and says deflina crashed, even though
 the music is still playing perfectly.

It started working after I updated from the old version
of AHI that came with OS 3.9 to version 6.0

This may be because I an using the old version of the delfina.library that came with the archive I got from
Here:
http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/delfinalite

There is also an delfina.library 4.16 B48 there, but if I
try to use it, every thing just locks up.

Also I tried to use the installer for the Delfina software
from the site above, but the installer would not work.
so I copied the delfina.library to LIBS manually, and put a
entry for Delfinit in user-startup, I don't know if there
need to be any arguments for delfinit, all I did was add a
run nill delfinit to the user startup


Anyone want to email me the latest delfina.library that
works with the Delfina Lite



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Re: More questions about AHI with my Delfina Card
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2007, 03:49:49 PM »
@ wildstar1063

The "Delfina Crashed" window is a known bug with that version of the library. The one from Individual Computers was meant for the newer Delfina Flipper and the results you describe are typical when using it with a Delfina Lite.

Send me a PM with your email address and I'll get you 4.16b3p#2 - it works great for MP3 decoding and AHI playback, but the it breaks tools like DelfLoad and the level monitors in DelFX.
 

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Re: More questions about AHI with my Delfina Card
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2007, 05:00:05 PM »
@Wildstar1063

You should try the MHI driver available from Aminet. I works quite nicely with my Delfina Flipper and AmigaAMP. There are instructions in the package to configure it for AmigaAMP.

 

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Re: More questions about AHI with my Delfina Card
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2007, 04:00:34 AM »
Ah, here it is. It's delflib_patch_2.lzx
 

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Re: More questions about AHI with my Delfina Card
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2007, 08:49:20 AM »
Matt,

Thanks for the link, Now I don't get the error
anymore.

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Re: More questions about AHI with my Delfina Card
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2007, 06:04:31 PM »
Ok,
I have the delfina.library 4.16b3p#2 installed, and am
 using Delfinit to initialize the card, and when it
 correctly initializes, the card plays great with
 AMPlifier. I still have not installed MHI to use with
 AmigaAMP yet.

In any case, the problem now is that that Delfinit does
 not always Init. the card correctly, and does something
 so that after it runs, no other program can be loaded,
 and I have to re-boot the computer. I have commented
 Delfinit out of the user-startup for now, because it only
 correctly inits. the card about 1 in 6 times I boot, the
 other 6 time the OS boots, but I cannot load any programs.
 and I just have to keep rebooting.

Currently I am using AHI 6.0 and an OS 3.9 install from the
Second Edition (Pink) OS 3.9 disk. No BoingBags installed
 and Delfinit 2.1, and it is the first entry in user-startup.

Would any of the command line switches in Delfinit help this
 situation?
 
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