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Largest Capacity Hard Drive In A600?
« on: August 23, 2007, 10:00:19 PM »
What is the largest capacity 2.5 inch hard drive that can be installed in an A600?
 

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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2007, 10:01:27 PM »
4GB with no OS upgrade.

Upto ~180GB? with OS patches/Upgrade.
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Re: Largest Capacity Hard Drive In A600?
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2007, 10:10:50 PM »
If you partition only 4GByte of space it's safe to use any size of hard drive I think even without OS updates.

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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2007, 10:10:50 PM »
Though it also depends on ROM revision 37.350 or higher is needed to assure trouble-free operation.
 

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Re: Largest Capacity Hard Drive In A600?
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2007, 10:11:38 PM »
You can install as large a harddrive as you want, but the max you will get out of the controller with all available patches is 127 GB.
 

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Re: Largest Capacity Hard Drive In A600?
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2007, 10:17:24 PM »
What do people mean by patches/upgrades? Sorry if this is a silly question but I haven't touched an Amiga for about 16 years.
 

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Re: Largest Capacity Hard Drive In A600?
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2007, 10:28:28 PM »
I have a 40GB 2.5" drive in my A600, kickstart 3.1.  So far, I have only had the need for two partitions (2x2GB).  Still haven't managed to fill them up.

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Re: Largest Capacity Hard Drive In A600?
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2007, 10:31:01 PM »
 :lol:   Three answers, all different and none really helpful to someone who has not touched an Amiga in 16 years.

tridion, it really depends on what you plan on doing with your A600, but here are some facts to consider.

An unexpanded A600 has 1mb RAM and runs a 7mHz CPU speed.  In that configuration it is not much use except to play classic Amiga games and run some early productivity programs that are not too RAM hungry, Final Copy, or ProWrite comes to mind for word processing, D-Paint III for paint and simple animations (not sure if D-Paint IV, or V would run well on only 1mb RAM).

A600 accelerator boards are hard to come by and expensive.

You can probably fit all the classic Amiga programs you are likely to want to use on a 1gb HD, so a cheap 2gb, or 4gb drive partitioned into two 2gb partitions should satisfy your needs indefinitely.  Keeping partitions to a maximum of 2gb will keep you out of trouble with any of the Amiga OSes and file systems (IIRC).

I hope this info is helpful.  If on the other hand you are just asking the question to get a technical answer about the absolute limits of Amiga hardware and software, see the other answers and guess which one is more correct.

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As for patches, they are probably referring to additional code that is installed to alter the original Amiga OS so it can handle larger HDs and file, or partition sizes than was possible with AmigaOS 1.3, 2.04, 3.1, etc.  Some of those patches are included in AmigaOS 3.5 and 3.9, which was the last official AmigaOS released.  Your A600 probably has the 2.04, 2.05, or 3.0 Kickstart ROM inside of it.  To run OS 3.5 and 3.9 you will need to upgrade the ROM to the 3.1 Kickstart ROM which was the last Kickstart commercially produced by Amiga.
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Re: Largest Capacity Hard Drive In A600?
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2007, 10:43:36 PM »
Thanks amigadave ;) That was the first reply that made any sense to me.

I would only want it for old nostalgia stuff so I am sure the standard A600 will be fine. I guess a 4Gb 2.5inch drive is pretty hard to buy these days so is it true you can but any size and just partition 4Gb of it?
 

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Re: Largest Capacity Hard Drive In A600?
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2007, 10:45:28 PM »
The Kickstart ROM, if you dont know, is an actual physical chip (or 2 chips in some models). You can buy the latest (3.1) versions off ebay or sites like AmigaKit for pretty cheap. Be sure to get the right kind for your computer.
 

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Re: Largest Capacity Hard Drive In A600?
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2007, 02:04:00 AM »
Sorry, didn't realize you were such a n00b!  ;)

Welcome back!

If you plan on getting a drive larger than 1GB you might need to get a 3.1 ROM chip.  You *may* be able to get it to work with your 2.0x ROM, so just grab the smallest/cheapest 2.5" HD and see what you can do.  I think I got a 2GB drive working in my A600HD.  On  my other 600's I got a 4GB and 6GB working.

Yes if you got a 10GB drive, you can just partition 4GB and leave the rest of it unpartitioned and you will be fine.  Problem is you *may* need later HD Tools to get a larger drive recognized/working. Get HDInstTools from Aminet, that works great.
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Re: Largest Capacity Hard Drive In A600?
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2007, 02:07:42 AM »
the Amiga 600 came with roms ROM 2,05 v37.299 (can use hdd) ROM 2,05 v37.300 and ROM 2,05 v37.350, you can only use HDD with 40mb max. you need to upgrade to ROM 3,1 v40.63 to use HDD 4gb max :P.

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Re: Largest Capacity Hard Drive In A600?
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2007, 02:48:40 AM »
I believe I have v37.350 and I was able to install a 1.2 or 2GB HD fine...
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Re: Largest Capacity Hard Drive In A600?
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2007, 04:03:10 AM »
Are they really that hard to come by?  What are they going for when they sell.  My father seems to come by a lot of them when he is refurbishing equipment, and I was thinking that Amiga users might be a good outlet for him to sell some.  Right now he is talking recycling them for the metal.
 

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Re: Largest Capacity Hard Drive In A600?
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2007, 04:58:59 AM »
 The A600's ROMs versions are:

 37299 or less: no support for IDE (although there is a funccional IDE on the motherboard);

 37300: up to 40Mb IDE hd (I had one A600 with this exact ROM and a 2Gb hd running in it, don't ask how);

 37350: up to 2Gb hd.

 Those up are ORIGINALS. 3.0 (39106) 3.1  (40.068) are later upgrades (you buy one of those babies easily on Amigakit, Vesalia or SoftwareHut).

 3.0 recognise up to 4Gb, 3.1 the very same (other programs on ROM makes this late kickstart more usuable for today's).

 I strongly sugest you look at the "purple screen" when your Miggy is turned on with no floppy in drive. What version of kickstart is on the screen?

 If the version is 37300 or up, you can install a "new" IDE hd easily. Those "low profile" hds can be easily found on Ebay for almost nothing.

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