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Re: New Delfina sound card
« Reply #14 from previous page: July 09, 2003, 10:11:59 AM »
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I just bought a second hand delfina plus. When playing mp3's with delfinampeg.device, I get noise and popping (generally low quality sound). With ppc decoding and AHI playback I have no problems. I never had any similar problems with my delfina lite, (which has been replaced by the delfina plus and moved over to another amiga, without problems).

If I remember correctly the discussions some years ago, the Delfina Plus boards with 32K DSP memory have some sort of hardware fault (incorrect memory mapping). It causes delfinampeg.device to produce noisy, "popping" output. I don't know if it is possible to workaround that with a software patch (delfina.library). The Delfina Plus with 128K memory and of course the new Delfina Flipper don't have this problem...

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Re: New Delfina sound card
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2003, 01:24:57 PM »
Thanks for the info, Michael.
I guess I'll stick with ppc decoding then.
Maybe I'll look for the 128 kWord ram chips, but i suspect they might be insanely expensive.

-Paul
 

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Re: New Delfina sound card
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2003, 03:28:36 PM »
I have the Delfina plus with 128k words, and it has the popping sound some times, so it maybe the software.  I didn't know about the Mp1 and Mp2 problem, this answer a lot of questions.

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Re: New Delfina sound card
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2003, 04:22:28 PM »
Hi all

@Pasha

I have a delfina flipper (see signature). The bugs I'm talking about are not fixed yet, not even in the latest delfina library version (which only add support for the highway USB card). I got an email from Jens S. yesterday and he confirmed me that the bug is being worked on by the library developer.

Quoting Jens C. email:


>         I'd like to know about the posibility of fixing a couple of annoying
>bugs of two software parts of the delfina flipper board. One of them is the
>"freeze bug" present in the delfina.library.

That is a so-called "race-condition" in the DSP code. The fix is already in
the testing phase. A race condition is an event where two programs (tasks)
access the same data in memory. If this happens in the same order most of
the time, but the order is reversed only on very rare events, a bug in
accessing the data in the wrong order is not found easily. Well, the bug
itself might be easy to reproduce, but you also have to find the routine
where it fails, and this takes lots of time. The good news is that Teemu
has isolated the routine.

>         The other bug affects AHI drivers. This bug causes the serial port
>(a VAR I/O 's or internal amiga serial port) to be almost unusable, so that
>if you're connected to the internet via modem/serial port all connections
>simply die and they can be recovered only when you stop playing anything
>with the delfina through AHI. This problem *was* present in Michael Henke's
>mp3 software (delfmpeg.device and delfmpeg player author) and he fixed it in
>his latest (and last) release of his programs (I reported him this problem
>and I was tester of his programs). This has been taken from delfmpeg readme
>file (it can be found in aminet):

That's in the secondary code, the Amiga-side of the Delfina drivers, and is
related with the race condition. The freezing Amiga is a result of that
race condition, and the DSP holds the IRQ forever, because there's no
program to catch it on the Amiga.


>         This interference with serial I/O is what I'm talking about..
>Delfina AHI drivers 'cause this problem too :-(

..because they all use the delfina-library where the bug is located.

>I contacted Martin Blom
>regarding this problem but I've had no reply, I do not even know if he wrote
>the delfina driver...

No, that's not the guy. It was Teemu Suikki, and I'm in close contact with
him. No new betas currently, I'd like to publish them, but it's incomplete
softwre (other parts have been removed to make sure the fault is not cause
by them, and this stuff has to be put back in).

End quote.

So, I think this clarifies everything... so, all delfina users, let's wait!!!

@Michael:

I'm so glad to see you here, really!!!

Thanks for clarifying the streamer problem, good to know it's not a delfmpeg device bug :)

Are you coming back as an activa amiga user/programmer? Please say YES! :)

Regards

Dragster
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Re: New Delfina sound card
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2003, 01:18:00 PM »
@ Dragster

Hi Daniel.
My Amiga hardware is stored in some boxes in the basement now. I have no plans to revive my Amiga any time soon. It would take so much time to install the system again and all the software I used to use on a new hard disk, some of that stuff will probably be lost forever after the HD crash.  :-(
Anyway, I'm glad that I could release the software updates just in time... And it's good to see that Teemu and Jens Schönfeld are working on the bug fixes.

A bright, happy future awaits the Delfina users. Have fun!  :-D


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Re: New Delfina sound card
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2003, 03:28:25 PM »
@Michael

What can I say? Now that things look to be going somewhere, you leave us...

Sad... :-(

I hope you comeback someday to the Amiga.

Take care & good luck,

Dragster
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Re: New Delfina sound card
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2003, 06:02:30 PM »
Well I took the delfina lite from my A1200T (the zorro2 backplane doesn't work anyway), and when I had a closer look, it turns out that my Delfina Lite has a 66 MHz DSP :-)

So, everyone out there with a delfina Lite is encouraged to have a closer look at the speed of their DSP, you might be lucky.

-Paul