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How Many here also use a mac
« on: August 06, 2007, 03:08:51 AM »
I am just curious how many here use a mac instead of  the usual pc .
I have been waiting for all these years for a new amiga but my patience has run out so i grabbed a macbook and its a breath of fresh air to use instead of a billyGates box.
 

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Re: How Many here also use a mac
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2007, 03:13:54 AM »
have had both for years;can't get  too excited over either,computers are tools.If you find one that works better for you ,use it.

Programs are what we really use,not OSes.
 

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Re: How Many here also use a mac
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2007, 03:39:06 AM »
You should see the recent thread about Apple being the new Amiga... Macs are hardly in the same category as Amigas. Macs are designed around the idea that users are essentially retarded and need to have their options limited (witness the one button mouse, and Apple's history of hermetically sealed cases).

While Amigas are pretty easy to use, they always encouraged users to learn and tinker. Notice all the schematics and pin outs in your Commodore user manuals? Ever see that in a Mac manual?

Microsoft products are unusable garbage. Thats a given. Macs are only marginally better though.

You want a good solid system that carries on the spirit of the Amiga, get yourself a good modern Linux install.
 

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Re: How Many here also use a mac
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2007, 05:07:18 AM »
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have had both for years;can't get  too excited over either,computers are tools.If you find one that works better for you ,use it.

Programs are what we really use,not OSes.


Agreed!

Got a Mac-mini.
Got an Ubuntu box.

Messed around with both for a while, they were both fun and interesting to start with, but I always come back to my Win-PC when I just want to get stuff done.

The mac is hardly used, software is too expensive, hard to source and not much choice.

My Ubuntu install broke after a few weeks on the net, never played DVDs all that well and was horribly slow to boot compared to Win2000pro on the -same- machine.  Sure, I could spend a week digging through pages of piss-poor documentation, learning how to fix and tweak it in some arcane way, but meh.

For me it's not about the OS but the software.
 

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Re: How Many here also use a mac
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2007, 06:17:32 AM »
Using a Mac here...actually own two

Up until a couple of weeks ago I had to use both my Power Mac dual G5 and my Dell Workstation PC but since I bought a Mac Pro I can have both worlds....MacOS + Windoze so I have my Power Mac + Dell up for sale at the moment
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Re: How Many here also use a mac
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2007, 06:28:22 AM »
I have been using macs since 1999.  Before that I toyed with Windows for a couple of years after I realized the Amiga wasn't coming back.  The truth is that I just don't like Windows.  It has no style and it is awkward.  Mac OS X is amazing.  It is based on UNIX (well, FreeBSD actually) but the GUI is very intuitive.  And if you like programing like I do, it is a gift from God.  All the same UNIX-based compilers and editors you get for LINUX but a much nicer looking machine to run them on.
 

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Re: How Many here also use a mac
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2007, 06:50:49 AM »
I don't and I won't.
this thread belongs to 'Alternative Operating Systems'
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Re: How Many here also use a mac
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2007, 09:40:56 AM »
Hi,

I own two Macs:
1. A Mac LCII, 68030, 4Mb RAM
2. A Mac Performa 630, 68040, 20Mb (!) RAM
 :-D

Both were picked up for next to nothing from recycling centres and both work fine!

Definitely not as good as a similarly specced Amiga though!

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Re: How Many here also use a mac
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2007, 10:01:43 AM »
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Microsoft products are unusable garbage. Thats a given.


that's obviously wrong, so don't say such trollish things...

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Re: How Many here also use a mac
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2007, 10:17:29 AM »
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I am just curious how many here use a mac instead of  the usual pc .
I have been waiting for all these years for a new amiga but my patience has run out so i grabbed a macbook and its a breath of fresh air to use instead of a billyGates box.


Well I used a PC from 1999-2003 but after all the nightmares and things going wrong with it on a near enough daily basis I "switched" to an eMac and the parents still use that PC today (although everything has been upgraded over the years).

Since I began using it in November 2003 the Mac has been 100% trouble-free in terms of reliability, with only a very rare kernel panic here and there which has forced me to reboot the system.

The only issue I ever had with it, and sadly I found was a major one, was the software front. Not even OS X can rival some things you can do with a PC. Macs are nowhere near as customisable for instance, nor is there anywhere near as much choice in terms of software, an Windows software is generally much cheaper.

I am now beginning the MCSE course for my future career so unfortunately for that reason and the reasons mentioned above I have retired the Mac a few days ago after nearly 4 years of daily loyal service to me.

I am now running a PC with Windows XP, and am enjoying access to lots of software that would simply be either A) near impossible to find for the Mac or B) Would have been expensive on the Mac.

I'm not a Microsoft-fanboy so please don't shoot me!!
I think Vista is a POS for instance! :lol:
Just stating my opinion after using both Windows and Mac for a number of years.
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Re: How Many here also use a mac
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2007, 10:48:47 AM »
Hmmmm...

My wife uses an iBook and I have a Twentieth Anniversary Macintosh.
It runs iTunes and plays music very well ;-)

Our basement has a couple of Linux-boxes and I connect to them from time to time if I need modern apps on my Mac. Apart from this I use Windows CE based stuff for my everyday computing.
I mostly just listen to music, check email and pay bills anyway....  :-D

I wonder if it would be enough for me to just get myself an Amiga again...  :idea:
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Re: How Many here also use a mac
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2007, 10:52:46 AM »
Faithful Mac user here, both Intel and PPC.  Only one Windows computer in my home, and that's my girlfriend's laptop.  Everything else is either Apple or C=.

I use Windows at work (C#.Net developer), and I hate it with every sore muscle in my body.  There, I just threw up a little in my mouth just by mentioning it.

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Re: How Many here also use a mac
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2007, 11:04:09 AM »
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Macs are designed around the idea that users are essentially retarded and need to have their options limited (witness the one button mouse, and Apple's history of hermetically sealed cases).


You've been brain washed... :roll: Strangely, the moment I putted my two buttons mice on my macbook was the moment he started behaving as it never lived without one, besides there's nothing in the system demanding  you to use left button apart from the implicit metaphor that you click and select with it.. besides, it gives you more options, if you click more time he assumes to push the contextual menu (ie- right button).

Having all the options in the book presented isn't sign of intelligence, showing the closest path to the solution is, and that's where Mac OSX, I cannot talk for past OS, but this lack of options you talk about is nothing I could present as bad, just a sign of ID( intelligent Design).

As for the hermetical cases, my macbook let me exchange ram just fine, and is as hermetical as my A1200 was perhaps, open it and guaranty is voided...

Now for the topic, I stop using PC almost in the moment I got my MacBook, I had just upgraded to vista and it didn't suspended to ram anymore. the time to boot it up and get all the programs running to a stateless machine as MB is just to tiresome...


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Re: How Many here also use a mac
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2007, 12:05:25 PM »
no Linux distribution is ready for mass market use.  I've tried Ubuntu, PcLinixOS (windows-like but unstable), and fedora. Yes you CAN get them to use your video card properly but its a hassle.  I never got sound to work.  ubuntu would connect to the net but no internet app would see the connection.  PClinuxOs corrupted one of my login files and after 2 weeks someone in the forums helped me work it out so i could boot it up again.  2 weeks later it wouldn't boot again and I'm on the verge of re-installing.  And if u wanna tinker, the system uses cryptic directory and file names which bear no relation to what they do.  eg Linux has an "etc" directory which holds important graphics driver files- how would a user know this? IMHO the problem with Linux is there are way too many distributions, so that the limited resources mean that they all end up half-baked.
Reminds of the Amiga when everyone was trying to make a buck by bringing out there own hardware and OS solution and in the end none of them made anything.  

as far as Macs go they become obsolete even quicker than PC's:  Apple kills support for older units in the OS after 3-4 years so that you can't even get a printer to work with older units, whereas most PC hardware until this year or so comes with at least Win98se drivers.  I remember getting Encyclopeadia Brittanica to run on a P2 200 with Win98Se, the Mac version needed MacOSX.  Why? windows is safe for a while yet
 

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Re: How Many here also use a mac
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2007, 12:14:26 PM »
No thanks..
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