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Re: No CD-ROM Icon Appearing WB 3.1
« Reply #29 from previous page: August 03, 2007, 09:05:34 PM »
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Try upgrading gvpscsi and Asim to the latest versions before you throw in the towel.


Oh there will be no towel throwing! I am not going to copy every thing over by floppy... And I got the amiga to cause me problems since my life is way to easy apparently...

So does anyone have or know of anyone that has the 4.15 ROM for GVP SCSI? I guess I should post on marketplace too.

Yes, Asim seems to be a very nice package so if its one of the best Id rather keep it. and I have the manual and serial numbers registration cards... are those good anymore? ;)
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Re: No CD-ROM Icon Appearing WB 3.1
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2007, 09:16:32 PM »
IDEfix97 it's a very good software, too. For test purposes, I give it a try.

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Re: No CD-ROM Icon Appearing WB 3.1
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2007, 09:20:13 PM »
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Yes, Asim seems to be a very nice package so if its one of the best Id rather keep it. and I have the manual and serial numbers registration cards... are those good anymore?


Unless they have gotten back into the Amiga market, no.

Another trick on OS3.1:
Open the hard drive toolbox and select the CD, assuming it shows there. Then exit the program. Does the icon appear?
In my case it did, prior to upgrading to the ROM update which addressed this issue.

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Re: No CD-ROM Icon Appearing WB 3.1
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2007, 09:51:51 PM »
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Yes, Asim seems to be a very nice package so if its one of the best Id rather keep it. and I have the manual and serial numbers registration cards... are those good anymore?

Another trick on OS3.1:
Open the hard drive toolbox and select the CD, assuming it shows there. Then exit the program. Does the icon appear?
In my case it did, prior to upgrading to the ROM update which addressed this issue.


Just tried this and not even my HD showed up in it. Nothing and all the buttons were ghosted. Any advice?

Thanks for all the help to everyone and please if anyone has any more I would love to hear it. You'd think there would be a way since the card can see it, and I will try anything at all to get it working.

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Re: No CD-ROM Icon Appearing WB 3.1
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2007, 09:54:02 PM »
Is HDToolbox looking at the right device driver? Have you pointed it at gvpscsi.device in the icon ToolTypes?
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Re: No CD-ROM Icon Appearing WB 3.1
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2007, 10:53:47 PM »
@ hamtronix

Flashlab is probably suggesting this mate:-

Click once on your HDToolBox and then hold down the right mouse button and select Information... from the top of your Workbench screen.




Click on the 'Icon' tab and then change the line SCSI_DEVICE_NAME= trekmagic.device

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SCSI_DEVICE_NAME=gvpscsi.device

Click on 'Save' and hopefully you will be able to see your hard drive and CDrom when you reactivate HDToolBox :-)
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Re: No CD-ROM Icon Appearing WB 3.1
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2007, 11:06:54 PM »
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Re: No CD-ROM Icon Appearing WB 3.1
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2007, 11:50:10 PM »
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Click on the 'Icon' tab and then change the line SCSI_DEVICE_NAME= trekmagic.device

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SCSI_DEVICE_NAME=gvpscsi.device

Click on 'Save' and hopefully you will be able to see your hard drive and CDrom when you reactivate HDToolBox :-)


I did this and both my SCSI devices showed up.

Now for the interesting part the CD drive appears as status unknown. no drive type information just the scsi ID and the LUN. does this clue anyone in on fixing the problem?
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Re: No CD-ROM Icon Appearing WB 3.1
« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2007, 12:08:55 AM »
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Is there an alternative CD file system (preferably PD) that I can use to test the software side?


AmiCDFS/AmiCDROM, or even the built in 3.1 CD filesystem should be enough to test with.

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I am not tied to Asim , although it appears like a nice program. And I still would like an explanation about how it sees the drive but doesnt recognize CDs.


Are you sure the disksalv'd filesystem is 100%?

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Also, the CD icon should be visible no matter if a CD is in or not correct? Or would it just pop up when media is inserted?


Not sure about Asim, but normally they only show when a CD is present.
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Re: No CD-ROM Icon Appearing WB 3.1
« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2007, 12:11:56 AM »
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Now for the interesting part the CD drive appears as status unknown. no drive type information just the scsi ID and the LUN. does this clue anyone in on fixing the problem?


It's normal.  But it means that both devices are at least working.
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Re: No CD-ROM Icon Appearing WB 3.1
« Reply #39 on: August 04, 2007, 01:29:37 AM »
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In any case - after attempting everything to no avail I think it will be easier to assume the CDROM is bad and buy some alternatives to test it with. If anyone has a 50 pin SCSI CDROM they want to sell me please PMAIL otherwise it will be Ebay.

If that doesnt work I will attempt the GVP SCSI ROM 4.15 .

In the meantime if anyone has any new ideas kick them on down as I recently became unemployed so it is me and the Amiga for a bit.

Thanks again to everyone who has helped or read! The community is wonderful.
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Re: No CD-ROM Icon Appearing WB 3.1
« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2007, 04:48:40 AM »
I don't know why I didn't think of this earlier, but try running GVP's mounting tool - it used to help me with diskchanges on an old SyQuest drive. I don't remember what it's called, but it's part of the standard GVP utility bundle. Mounter? GVPMounter? GVPSCSICtrl? Whatever it's called, it should bring up a big list of all the units on gvpscsi.device. Select your CD drive and hit the Mount button.
 

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Re: No CD-ROM Icon Appearing WB 3.1
« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2007, 09:06:44 AM »
Have you tried changing the SCSI ID of the CD-ROM?
 

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Re: No CD-ROM Icon Appearing WB 3.1
« Reply #42 on: August 04, 2007, 11:28:35 AM »
I always used a program called "find device" if remember correcty, it was included with ide fix long time ago.
Nice program, it will search devices and very important wich unit the cd rom or other device is on.

in the tooltypes of find device you'll have to set the device on gvpscsi.device or scsi.device etc (the one you want to have a search on) and it will display the unit where your cdrom drive is on.

Then go to the tooltypes of your CD0 driver in devs: and state:
device=gvpscsi.device
unit=0 (or 1 or 2 etc..)
donotwait

This always worked fine for me.
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Re: No CD-ROM Icon Appearing WB 3.1
« Reply #43 on: August 04, 2007, 11:59:39 AM »
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Thanks, but my post really wasn't *that* good mate :oops:  :lol:

But seriously, he must be thanking me for spending the last couple of days E-mailing him screengrabs, drivers, files and anything else I could think of to throw at him.

He appreciates everybodys help very much indeed :pint:



@ PPC

Spot on mate! I also sent him the excellent FindDevice from IDEFix97 and a CD0 set to 'gvpscsi.device' and Unit 1. The CDrom is found but he just isn't getting an icon for the inserted CD. Pity he doesn't have another CDrom to try in case the one he is using simply has a faulty lens or something.


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Re: No CD-ROM Icon Appearing WB 3.1
« Reply #44 on: August 04, 2007, 01:32:19 PM »
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Have you tried changing the SCSI ID of the CD-ROM?


What would this test?

Can some scsi device numbers appear to work but not work on the chain?

The CD drive is Device 1 my other device HD is 0 and the card is terminated at 7.

Right now im thinking the cheapest route is to get another SCSI cd rom to test it with and then failing that hunt down 4.15 ROMs.
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