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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent arena
« Reply #29 from previous page: August 06, 2007, 01:54:46 PM »
@guru-666

You're certainly entitled to that opinion, but I wonder why you are so vehemently wanting to shout it from the mountain top?  They might have screwed you for $50, but I just can't help feeling that your reaction is rather "over-reaction".

After all, if AI doesn't matter, why get so pissy about it?  It isn't as though they came into your house, took a sledge to your Amiga, and raped your dog or anything.

I can't disagree (due to lack of factual basis) that this community would be better off without Amiga Inc.  Personally I think the last "shot" we had was with Gateway but even that is purely speculative and ended almost 10 years ago now.

Where I truly believe Amiga Inc is screwing up is in lording over all the people in the community who're at least trying to develop for the classic platform, telling them they can't do whatever because "it isn't licensed".  

I think if AI truly has little real interest in the classic community (and it's obvious that they do not), they ought to just leave it the hell alone and let people enjoy their hobby, even if it means letting people develop new stuff for the old platform without worrying about having to pay "30% of the total price" to Amiga for the privilege.  

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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent arena
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2007, 02:31:18 PM »
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I think if AI truly has little real interest in the classic community (and it's obvious that they do not), they ought to just leave it the hell alone and let people enjoy their hobby, even if it means letting people develop new stuff for the old platform without worrying about having to pay "30% of the total price" to Amiga for the privilege.

Exactly! I think this is the main cause for the hostility we see against Amiga INC today.

Sending lawyers on a community member for posting a video of a amiga using a modified 3.9 kickstart, is just sad..
 

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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent arena
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2007, 02:54:31 PM »
Hmm i can perfectly understand why people want to throw mud at AI when you consider how slimey they are. The british public at least love a good session of 'lynch the lying {bleep}s', its probably good for your mental state in some cases. :lol:  

I personally am taking great joy in seeing Amiga Inc die on its ass. Its almost like divine retribution, it is a shame that the Amiga brand has been linked with these dodgy fellows.

Continue the Lynching session...

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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent arena
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2007, 03:35:34 PM »
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As I said, I was strictly guessing as to what Amiga's side of the story might have been.

The real point of the story is that I don't see any real point in beating the dead horse here.  

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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent arena
« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2007, 07:16:27 PM »
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ffastback wrote:

As I said, I was strictly guessing as to what Amiga's side of the story might have been.

The real point of the story is that I don't see any real point in beating the dead horse here.  

Wayne


As webmaster of this site your conjecture can hold some weight with some was my thought there, I just wanted to make sure the straight story, as told by the media in interviews with Bill M. and Kent city officials and thru papers obtained by Rich Woods that your conjecture was way off the mark.

Whether this is a pertinant thread to discuss on this board in general, thats of course your call.  :)
 

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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent arena
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2007, 07:29:54 PM »
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Whether this is a pertinant thread to discuss on this board in general, thats of course your call.  :)

I do appreciate the input, though the actions and vendetta of some out there is truly scary.

Honestly, I don't see the point in these discussions on this site, but I'm not here to tell people what to think or how to act.  Amiga Inc dug their own hole with the community (with a lot of help from factions in the Amiga community sworn to support other thieves) but I just guess I don't care enough about the situation either way any more to hold any strong opinions either for, or against Amiga Inc.

I'm here to support the Classic platform and as far as I'm concerned, any rights for anyone to presume to be the "parent company" died in 1994/95 with Commodore.  What we are forced to accept now (by threat of lawsuit in most cases) is the evil "stepfather" to took the name to coerce us into supporting them instead of worrying about our own platform.

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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent arena
« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2007, 07:38:31 PM »
The company may be a b*tch. The community may be a b*tch also. Sometimes one may even wonder what the hell are we still doin' here. Everything is in ruins, even the best efforts have little hope to prevail - add to that the constant lies, the hype, the broken promises and disappointment.

But hey, it's our world. Maybe it's not perfect. But are we in a hurry to get somewhere? Will we lose something, if neither the next, nor those after that will get somewhere, if some of the few alternatives we have will get somewhere on a distant day? (and given the hardships we did achieve amazing things - AROS, MOS, OS4, Classic all alike)

The beauty of the situation is that we can keep on dreaming and hoping without giving up on anything else. Being an Amiga user is not restrictive. Most of us uses more than just an Amiga. Heck, then what? No company can ruin our childish hopes :-)
 

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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent arena
« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2007, 07:58:38 PM »
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Everyone is so trigger happy with AI these days, without even knowing the whole story.


Now that is hilarious!  :lol:
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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent arena
« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2007, 08:38:02 PM »
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Everyone is so trigger happy with AI these days, without even knowing the whole story.


Now that is hilarious!  :lol:

Why is it funny?  It's very true.  Everyone is lined up to beat the dead horse here, some of you obviously have some pent up aggression.  If I were to offer my opinion, even caring that much any more is the sad yet funny part.

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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent arena
« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2007, 09:03:43 PM »
How hard can it really be to make a small PPC board with extras?

FFS.

disgrace.

we need about 2ghz and upto 2gb ram and pci-e usb2.0 and sata/ide etc

maybe onboard gpu instead.

I like the idea of MINIMIG but we need more of a 1200 setup with ECS and maybe AGA aswell must be able to connect to 1200 /600 or 500 keyboards etc would be nice to have onboard 32mb ram and 030 40/50mhz on it too.

Regards.

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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent arena
« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2007, 10:26:56 PM »
Amiga Inc is not going to get us anywhere reasonable with any kind of hardware.  No one is going to listen to them either, since they have fostered so much distrust of anything they say or do.  

There are factions in the community that are out for nothing more than supporting pirates of the Amiga legacy and their own sense of purpose and beatring down anyone who disagrees.

In short, everything has helped kill the Amiga.  Not just Amiga Inc, although I agree they are a culprit.

What would help at this point?  I am not certain if there is an answer.

 

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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent arena
« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2007, 11:34:17 PM »
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Wayne wrote:
Everyone is lined up to beat the dead horse here, some of you obviously have some pent up aggression.  If I were to offer my opinion, even caring that much any more is the sad yet funny part.


Quickly looking though the threads.. and most of the posts tbh I can't see anything objectionably and worryingly "holding phone, ready to dial 999" aggressive with the comments.

In my opinion it really is just a bunch of people who have loved and lost a platform taking any excuse to have a good 'ol bi*ch about a company that pretty much killed any last hope of it coming back.

What's so wrong about that? We all need a good bi*chin session now and then; keeps us sane me thinks. Though if it isn't really the kind of discussion that warrants using public forum, then that it entirely up to you as the Webmaster, Wayne.

But if you're not bothered about that then I wouldn't worry about some of our attitudes. You've said it yourself you understand the bitterness.

If you don't mind an observation I'd say you've just got so used to being let down by them Wayne that you don't even get angry anymore. Or it could be that you're just a better man than most of us.

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"The british public at least love a good session of 'lynch the lying {bleep}s', its probably good for your mental state in some cases."

Yes it is quite sad that we're like that isn't it?

It's unfortunate but I guess we just can't help ourselves. Everyone gets those feelings of judgment though even if they don't admit it.
 

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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent arena
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2007, 11:44:39 PM »
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Not shouting from the mountain, just confused why anybody would have any sympathy for anything AI does.  And it does sound like you are telling us we should cut AI some slack... why?


no aggression, I'm on vacation in the south of France,  just embarrassed by AI....
 

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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent arena
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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent arena
« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2007, 12:25:02 AM »
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Makes me laugh every time. It shouldn't, but it does.
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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent arena
« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2007, 01:18:12 AM »
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Everyone is lined up to beat the dead horse here, some of you obviously have some pent up aggression.


You sound like the guy with the wheelbarrow full of money on his way to buy a loaf of bread in Harare expressing surprise that people are {bleep}ing about Bob Mugabe.   :-)

This isn't aggression! This is people enjoying free entertainment and common culture!  :-)

Check your stats - before the latest Scamiga Inc shenanigans and then  after.

Enjoy!  :-D
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