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PC0: 720k floppy woes
« on: July 25, 2007, 07:30:01 PM »
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Recently got back into the Amiga. I have a 2000 and am running WB3.1.

I recently got a CDROM to add to the system but in the proces my HD died.

I was waiting on my RAM for my accelerator and now I have it.

Here is the issue:

before my HD died I copied the PC0: over to the proper location and was able to read 720k format floppies formatted on my PC no problem. Now I copied the same PC0: over to the floppy WB 3.1 (copy) and it seems to be mounted etc. But I cant seem to read any PC floppys now. I put them in and just get DF0: ????? .

Am I missing something that may have been installed on my HD to access the floppys from PC? It seems straightforward to me. HELP
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Re: PC0: 720k floppy woes
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2007, 07:43:51 PM »
If it works you should have a PC0: Icon on the WB. Make sure you have CrossDOSfileSystem in L: and mfm.device in devs: and make sure the icon properties are correct.
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Re: PC0: 720k floppy woes
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2007, 07:46:13 PM »
You don't just need the PC0 file (or mountlist entry) in Devs/DOSDrivers (or Storage/DOSDrivers), you also need CrossDOSFileSystem (in L) and mfm.device (in Devs). There may be other bits, it's a while since I've booted my A1200, but I will do so if you don't get this sorted out.

Edit: beaten to it, see above.
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Re: PC0: 720k floppy woes
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2007, 07:50:59 PM »
I did have CD in L: but I need to check the MFM.DEVICE . I bet thats the problem. The HD came with the system so I bet those were in place before I copied the PC0: over... All the tutorials leave out everything you need to check and just say 'copy out PC0: and go to town' .. thanks guys.

What disk would i find MFM.device on?
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Re: PC0: 720k floppy woes
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2007, 07:52:12 PM »
Workbench 3.x should have it. It might be in Storage (see my avatar).
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Re: PC0: 720k floppy woes
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2007, 08:00:10 PM »
I just checked and it is hanging in the devs directory already...
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Re: PC0: 720k floppy woes
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2007, 08:03:48 PM »
OK I have everything where it should be. At least those three files. and it still wont read the disks. I know the disks are readable because I was just using them. I do not get a PC0: I just get nothing but the DF0: ???? Any other files I need to look for... man I wish my HD hadnt died. that made this stuff a real PITA.
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Re: PC0: 720k floppy woes
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2007, 08:51:51 PM »
Have you tried double-clicking on the PC0 icon?
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Re: PC0: 720k floppy woes
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2007, 09:59:45 PM »
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Have you tried double-clicking on the PC0 icon?


No PC0: icon shows up with or without a disk inserted. hence the problem.

the mount file PC0: is reported as being mounted in dev/dosdrivers when I click on it.

Mount PC0: from CLI gives me an 'already mounted'

when I go into CLI and cd PC0: i get 'object not found'

also, when I put the RAD disk mount in the same directory it shows up as a drive on the WB screen. Just like PC0: ought to. Could PC0: be corrupted?
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Re: PC0: 720k floppy woes
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2007, 10:31:31 PM »
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... and make sure the icon properties are correct.


What do you mean by this? And how would I go about checking this?
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Re: PC0: 720k floppy woes
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2007, 10:37:56 PM »
Have you got CrossDOS in Tools/Commodities? (I think this is right, I haven't dragged my A1200 from the closet yet).
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Re: PC0: 720k floppy woes
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2007, 10:49:17 PM »
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Have you got CrossDOS in Tools/Commodities? (I think this is right, I haven't dragged my A1200 from the closet yet).


Does it go there or in L: ? I have it in L: . since I am booting from floppy it is a minimal 3.1. I will just make the directories and see what happens!
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Re: PC0: 720k floppy woes
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2007, 10:58:35 PM »
CrossDOSFileSystem goes in L, CrossDOS itself goes into a directory in the system's search path, and Tools/Commodities is ringing bells for me as I recall that it is controllable through Exchange...
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Re: PC0: 720k floppy woes
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2007, 11:07:11 PM »
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CrossDOSFileSystem goes in L, CrossDOS itself goes into a directory in the system's search path, and Tools/Commodities is ringing bells for me as I recall that it is controllable through Exchange...



Ah ha. I had CrossDOS the little program that will pop up with translation requestor box in L. So there is another file that has to be somewhere. I will look for i

THAT DID IT!

Thanks so much to everyone. It was the CDfilesystem not CD file that needed to be in L:

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Re: PC0: 720k floppy woes
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2007, 11:13:36 PM »
You could also put CrossDOS into WBStartup, and then it will be run when the machine boots. The DOSDriver (PCx) which is really just a modified MountList entry, controls which device it works on, the FileSystem lives in L, and mfm.device (in DEVS:) replaces trackdisk.device (in the ROM) when it is active. It sounds complex, but isn't really. (I used to use it on my A570 CD drive with an A500+ to read PC CDROMs.)
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