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Swapping drives
« on: November 22, 2002, 08:24:20 AM »
Ive just bought an A1200 with a dead internal floppy(external drive works fine) Can I swap it for my A500 internal drive???
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Re: Swapping drives
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2002, 08:41:56 AM »
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Re: Swapping drives
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2002, 08:47:30 AM »
AFAIK it should be possible to use the A500 drive.
 It might be a little harder to make it fit nicely into the amiga.
Think the floppy eject button might not be the same as the 1200 one, but just give it a try....

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Re: Swapping drives
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2002, 11:31:11 AM »
I didn't answer this before because I don't know about 1200 drives - are they DD or SD? The 500 drive is SD and is electrically compatible (if not mechanically), but it's only single density (880 kb discs).

If the 1200 is DD, the old 500 drive won't give you that functionality. You'll be able to use it for 880 kb discs, but not 1760s. On the other hand, if the 1200 drive is only SD, you should have no problems except mechanical ones.

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Re: Swapping drives
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2002, 11:36:29 AM »
I thought all Amiga Drives were Double Density (880KB), except the A3000/A4000 which had High Density Drives (1.76MB).

An A500 drive should work(not 100% sure), but it will not fit into the case properly.
 

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Re: Swapping drives
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2002, 12:29:38 PM »
I may keep the drive external if the cable is long enough and hope that it doesnt cause any problems, This A1200 seems to have another glitch sometimes when I switch it on the screen is blank (no animated floppy) if i hold down the left Amiga key and the left mouse button the boot screen appears.
Could this be related to the floppy fault??

Where can i get cheap hardrive cable from??
Will a Toshiba laptop hardrive work with A1200??
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Re: Swapping drives
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2002, 12:48:34 PM »
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Will a Toshiba laptop hardrive work with A1200??


;-) A laptop hard drive should work just fine in your A1200.  It will need to be reformatted, of course, and Workbench 3.1 and under cannot reach beyond the "4.3 gigabyte barrier."  A lower capacity drive would work just fine, or you could use WB 3.5 and up.
 

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Re: Swapping drives
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2002, 12:53:25 PM »
I remember something about the cable being cut a pin 1. Directions would be useful!
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Re: Swapping drives
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2002, 01:52:10 PM »
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I remember something about the cable being cut a pin 1. Directions would be useful!

You should only cut pin 1 of the IDE cable if your computer has trouble booting from a warm reset (Ctrl-L Amiga-R Amiga).
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Re: Swapping drives
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2002, 03:25:17 PM »
Does anyone have a spare Amiga cable with a diagram for installation??

If not i will try and get one from eyetech, but not sure from there web site which is the correct cable??
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Re: Swapping drives
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2002, 01:38:04 PM »
The only reason to cut pin 1 (its actualy wire 1) is because on the amiga it doesnt allow enough time for the Hardrive to spin up before it carries on with its boot up process. So the amiga has done all its checks and thinks there is no hardrive installed because the drive is not ready. So your options are get 3.1 roms which make the the amiga wait longer before finishing its boot (not usually long enough anyway). Do a warm reset (CTRL + Left Amiga + Right Amiga) this would work if it wasnt for pin 1. This when you reset the amiga the hardrive resets aswell. So it stops spinning and spins up again but this starts the recognise process again so the drive doesnt spin up in time for the amiga to recognise it. The answer is cut pin 1 (wire 1). Pin 1 is responsible for the reset of the hardrive with this cut the drive does not reset or spin down so it is still spining at full speed when the amiga looks for it and hey presto the amiga can see it. What you actually cut is the wire on the IDE cable which is red in colour (this is wire 1) but check on the amiga motherboard that it is plugged in the right way round. There is a number 1 printed on the motherboard next to pin 1 and only bother doing this on the very first piece of IDE cable on the machine as this then cancels it on any others linked up after that on the machine. I hope this helps any probs email me.
 

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Re: Swapping drives
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2002, 10:41:52 AM »
Going back to the orignal topic of this thread, swapping A500 DF0 FOR A1200 DFO is notgoing to well.

I seem to remember someone changing the df1 to df0 on there Amiga 1200. Help?
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Re: Swapping drives
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2002, 10:54:38 AM »
I know that in some AMIGA's is a jumper
to set the external drive as df0: (A500, A4000....)
But i dont't know the 1200 has one
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Re: Swapping drives
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2002, 01:04:45 PM »
Has anyone got any jumper schematics??

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Re: Swapping drives
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2002, 03:45:13 PM »
[color=993300]HELP!!!!!!!!![/color][/b]
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