ENV error in installation

[Amiduffer]

Hello.

I'm trying to install 3.0 on a fresh IDE HD on this A4000, (yes, I hear your voices saying upgrade you daft bugger! Thats coming soon, but for now, I have a ks3.0 A4000) and I can't begin because an error appears saying "insert ENV", and because there isn't any, the installation quits. The install disk I'm using is one I copied off a mini-cd that has all the OS disks, since my original 3.0 install disk is lost forever.

Just to be sure, do I insert "assign RAM: ENV:RAM" in the SS of the install disk?

Thanks.  :-)

[quenthal]

Hmm... weird.

You could try that and if you go this route and if there is Env-Archive -drawer somewhere in the os3.0 installer disk, you could add one more line in the s-s so that it copies everything in it to ram:env

C:Makedir RAM:ENV
C:Copy : RAM:ENV ALL
Assign ENV: RAM:ENV

[A4000_Mad]

And here is the full startup-sequence of a 3.0 Install Disk:-


C:Setpatch >NIL:
C:Version >NIL:
C:AddBuffers >NIL: DF0:  15
FailAt 21

C:MakeDir RAM:T
Copy ENVARC: RAM:ENV QUIET ALL NOREQ

C:Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
C:Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T

C:LoadWB
EndCLI >NIL:


:pint:

[Amiduffer]

Thanks I'll try that tonight and see.

Wonder why it got left out of the SS? Ah mystery.

[Amiduffer]

I checked, and my 3.0 Install disk has the full SS script.

C:Setpatch >NIL:
C:Version >NIL:
C:AddBuffers >NIL: DF0: 15
FailAt 21

C:MakeDir RAM:T
Copy ENVARC: RAM:ENV QUIET ALL NOREQ

C:Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
C:Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T

C:LoadWB
EndCLI >NIL:

Upon booting, when the shell window appears, it has this "cant open ENVARC: for input    Object not found" error message.

You could try that and if you go this route and if there is Env-Archive -drawer somewhere in the os3.0 installer disk, you could add one more line in the s-s so that it copies everything in it to ram:env

C:Makedir RAM:ENV
C:Copy : RAM:ENV ALL
Assign ENV: RAM:ENV

There is an Env-Archive drawer in the disk. I guess I'll have to try this, unless you've got another idea.

[smoorke]

by default ENVARC: is an assign which points to SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/

[motorollin]

@Amiduffer
The problem is in the Startup-Sequence. You have a line to copy the contents of ENVARC: to RAM:ENV, and a line to assign ENV: to RAM:ENV, but no line to make the directory RAM:ENV. So both of the other commands will fail. You need to add the line "makedir RAM:ENV" before the line "Copy ENVARC: RAM:ENV QUIET ALL NOREQ". So your ammended s-s will look like this:

C:Setpatch >NIL:
C:Version >NIL:
C:AddBuffers >NIL: DF0: 15
FailAt 21

C:MakeDir RAM:T
C:MakeDir RAM:ENV
Copy ENVARC: RAM:ENV QUIET ALL NOREQ

C:Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
C:Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T

C:LoadWB
EndCLI >NIL:



Hope that helps.

--
moto

[A4000_Mad]

Hmmm...It is certainly worth adding the line that moto has suggested.

However, I have just booted into an original 3.0 Install Disk that does not have that extra line. When I open up my Ram Disk icon the drawers ENV and T are both in there.

Prehaps you could look in your Ram Disk after booting into your 3.0 Install Disk and let us know if you have them too?

[Amiduffer]

Thank Moto, I'll try that, nothing else has worked. Is it required that the words be exactly in lowercase and uppercase as you listed?

For some reason, when I looked in RAM:, T was there, but not ENV.

[motorollin]

Amiduffer wrote:
Thank Moto, I'll try that, nothing else has worked. Is it required that the words be exactly in lowercase and uppercase as you listed?

No, AmigaDOS is not case sensitive. I just like to keep things neat :-)

Amiduffer wrote:
For some reason, when I looked in RAM:, T was there, but not ENV.

Maybe it depends on the exact kickstart version.

--
moto

[Amiduffer]

I think its 39.7 (something)

[Amiduffer]

MOTO! High five! {slap}

That one little line did the trick! You're the bees knees guy! I have a Workbench on the HD, neat as can be (looks a little dull at the moment).

[A4000_Mad]

Congrats mate :pint: I've been messing around here with the Install 3.0 disk for a while trying to help, but have ended up confused :-?

I've tried booting into the Install 3.0 floppy disk with two A4000's. One has 3.0 ROMS (39.106) and the other has 3.1 ROMS (40.068), but neither can boot into it. However, both can boot into the Workbench 3.0 floppy disk. I've tried adding moto's extra line but this has made no difference.

However, I've also tried using an A1200 with 3.0 ROMS and an A1200 with 3.1 ROMS, and both *can* boot into the Install 3.0 disk.

Does anyone have an any ideas as to what the problem could be with the A4000s and booting into the Install 3.0 disk?

(My only thought is that the 68060.library is not on the Install 3.0 disk, but at 102K it will not fit on it)

Thanks

[karel]

Copy full workbench to HD and reset...
and install from disk 3.0

[A4000_Mad]

@ karel

That's very good indeed thanks mate :pint:

I'm not actually stuck trying to install Workbench myself as I have many other ways to get it into a hard drive.

I'm just curious as to why my A4000's only read the Install 3.0 floppy disk for about 8 seconds and then stop, pause for another 20 seconds and then display a red Software Failure guru. Then they reset and start the cycle over again  :-?

EDIT - I started my own thread and was helped to solve this puzzle :cheers: