I'm impressed by AmiKit

[Opus]

I too, am very impressed with Amikit.  I have my A3000T with a mediator and voodoo 5, 060, 54M ram, DVD drive, etc etc etc.  she's quite keen on me, and me on her, but this Amikit could stop people from buying a real Amiga!  I say boycott Amikit!

j/k, great compilation and I can't wait to get amikit on my real Amiga.

[Brian]

You're amazed that a computer that's produced 13years later can emulate an Amiga. :roll:

Anything over 400Mhz should be able to emulate the Amiga accuratly and with some extra speed... even an P166 can emulate it though heavy tweaking is needed.

That said emulating just isn't the same thing as doing it on the real hardware.

[amiga_3k]

Sorry to piss on your cornflakes...

Cheers,
James
x

I never was a fan of cornflakes... now chances are I will never ever want to eat it in the future ;-)

But seriously... I know it doesn't mean a lot. It never meant a lot to me on the real Amigas I own(ed).

[amiga_3k]

Brian wrote:
You're amazed that a computer that's produced 13years later can emulate an Amiga. :roll:

Well, I saw it in action (Amiga emulation) a few times before and it was way off, letting me believe it would never ever be possible. It still is kind of weird that one needs 2GHz of x86 'power' to come close to a useable 68040ish Amiga.

[amiga_3k]

@opus:

I've got an A4kT and an A2k. Also a CD32, which is still resting in pieces waiting for me to feel like repairing it and putting it back together.

What Amikit allows me at the moment is having a bit of Amiga experience without the need of an extra monitor, extra keyboard, extra mouse etc... on my desk in the living. It enables me to surf the net at decent speed.

Amikit won't stop me buying any future new Amiga hardware (minimig, OS4-box) when (if) it comes available, right now it is a perfect way to do brief Amiga work when I feel like it.

[Brian]

If you need a 2+Ghz x86 to emulate the Amiga in 040 speed you need to digg up the JIT enable feature. My 3.2Ghz makes over 900Mips in SysInfo, 040/25 makes about 18Mips in same test.

[amiga_3k]

@Brian:

JIT is enabled and actually, it runs a tad faster than the 68040 (can't remember I've ever managed to play MP3s using a GUI Mp3 player and still be capable of doing other, usefull stuff, on a side note, I managed good MP3 playback but only with some tricks like first loading the MP3 to memory and use shell-commands to play it). It's quite useable, a real shame there's no up-to-date browser for the internet.

[LaserBack]

Amiga3k,

you are impressed by Amiga kit on the 2007 jesuscrist'year?

I have made a winuae'screenshot on the year 2001 with winuae running 4 avi files runnning at the same time, and playing an mp3 file,chating on internet using amirc
all of that on a duron 850mhz of course without that crap amikit package

check here and check the data and time of the file

http://aminet.net/pix/wb/WinUAEs1.lha


that amikit package is for novel' amiga users
or maybe idiots or maybe nerds

[LaserBack]

I forget to add that amikit package is also for stupid girls or for old aged womans

[amiga_3k]

LaserBack wrote:
I forget to add that amikit package is also for stupid girls or for old aged womans

Or for those who are just too lazy to put weeks and weeks into a setup that looks just that different from OS3.1.

Look... Out of the 'box' Amikit worked instantly without the need of tweaking this, tweaking that, replace patch A with patch B which is only neccessary when you use product Q with patch A version 3 installed in combination with version 1.3 of 680x0.library which should be installed on floppy not in LIBS:, or crap like that.

I'm not a newby, have been using Amiga's full time from 1987 up until 2001. Never cared too much about tweaking the interface, never thought it was usefull and no matter what tweaks you tried, most of the times it slowed down the machine, so you left it well alone.

In 2001 my first PC entered the house, mainly because I needed it for internet banking and running 3D-CAD application not available on the Amiga. It was in fact the 512MB+ Duron 750 with 32 MB Geforce. I once bought one of the first editions of Amiga Forever just to try. And it just didn't do the trick! Games were too slow, sound always off. I just couldn't get it right. Sure, some might have mastered all the tweaks and settings and got it working, I really couldn't be bothered. Afterall, I still had (have) the A4000 for the occasional game and site testing.

I gave it another try on a 1400 Duron, again I didn't manage to get it up to speed.

Now, on this old Dell Amikit installed quick and worked well straight away. No special tweaking needed. Just out of the box and play.

The users of UAE out there who managed lightning fast speeds on their 33 MHz Pentium 1s with 32 MB system memory running Vista, congratulations! You really are brilliant, I am not. I am lazy. I am a user, not a tweaker. Never been, never will be.

So, maybe I should rephrase my orignal title into:

I'm impressed how easy AmiKit installs, delivers a working Amiga emulation and doesn't make me go through millions and millions of different do-s and dont's just to get a reasonable emulation.

And yes... I still find it strange that you need a 1 GHz+ PC to emulate a 7 MHz Amiga! That's more a sign of how well the Amiga has been designed. Now imagine if those same people who designed the Amiga got another go with todays hardware....

[magnetic]

Amikit is very cool and many of us appreciate all the hard work that went into it. However, I would prefer a much more scaled back customized workbench. there are way too many add ons and graphic retouches. I prefer a much more minimal install... Maybe an Amikit lite version without all the eyecandy/extras?

[AmigaHeretic]

@amiga_3k

Just for fun: Run Sysinfo  My setup reports to be just under 40 times faster than a A4000 with 25 MHz 68040.
Compared to the A600: 362 times faster.

Again, I know it's just for fun, but if your run Sysinfo again and look at your results I think you'll see something funny when it comes to your "362" A600 speed.

You'll probably notice that number is LOWER for the A600 for "number of times faster" then for both the A1200 and A2000 when it should be higher??  That is because it is actually MISSING a digit.  Sysinfo can only show 3 places when it should be showing 4!

It should actually be showing that you are running 1,362 times the speed of an A600!!  :lol:  Not 362!

[lopos]

magnetic wrote:
Maybe an Amikit lite version without all the eyecandy/extras?

Try Classic Workbench.  :-D

[Reflex]

an't remember I've ever managed to play MP3s using a GUI Mp3 player and still be capable of doing other, usefull stuff, on a side

try delfina lite then

for me it's quite normal!

[Hammer]

try delfina lite then

Having a Motorola DSP56002 @ 40 MHz helps...

[magnetic]

lopos:

Thanks a lot thats exactly what i was looking for..