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Small computer shops
« on: June 14, 2007, 10:20:27 PM »
Back when I was growing up, the local town centre had a bunch of proper computer stores. These shops were pretty cool, all dark and cramped, but filled to the brim with cool stuff and knowledgeable, passionate staff. Some of these shops had been about since the very early 80’s, but by the late 90’s they all vanished as everyone and their dog started selling PCs and related stuff.  It was something that I really missed, and I was naturally pleased when I moved here to find that there was a genuine non-chain computer shop.  

Today I found myself in town (dentist appointment :-( ) so I decided to pop into the shop to see if there was anything interesting.  As I walked in I spotted a poster stating that they were having a sale on older spec RAM.  This was good, as I’ve been meaning to upgrade my iBook from the basic 512MB pretty much since I got it last year.  The problem was that I couldn’t remember exactly what type the iBook required (after all it was an potential impulse purchase).

So I told the guy I was after RAM for an Apple iBook, but I couldn’t remember the exact type required.  His reply was “That makes two of us”.  Knowing full well that they had internet there, I asked him if he could possibly find out.

“I could try to check but it’d only say that it requires special Apple RAM”

UGH! The ignorance!

“You’d have to bring it in here so I could see what type it really is”

So I told him that the 512MB was soldered onto the motherboard rather than being in the slot so that would not be of any help.  (plus, there was no-way I was going to let him near my computer)

At this point I should have just left it at that, but the nostalgia, or something made me persist.  I threw him a bone and told him that the manual had said exactly what type it was and that I thought it could be 333MHz SO-DIMM.

But no.  Launching a browser and googling for it was way too much effort for him, despite the fact he was sat at the computer as he was talking to me.

And yet I persisted.  I asked if they had any RAM that olds in stock.  He got up, pulled out a basket of RAM modules, flicked through it and found the right type.  I asked him how much it was, and when he told me I indicated that I was willing to buy it there and then, as long as it could be confirmed as the right type.

But he still didn’t respond.  There was no way he was going to check it out.  He wanted me to go away and find out before coming back.

So I left, completely confused and frustrated.  When I got in I googled for iBook memory, and guess what? 4th item down is a document on apple.com listing the types of memory each iBook model can be upgraded with.  

Not only did the guy loose a quick and easy sale, he also lost all future business from me.   In future I’ll just buy it on the web like everyone else.

R.I.P. Small computer shops. :-(
 

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Re: Small computer shops
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2007, 10:39:31 PM »
That's unfortunate.

In Hull (where I used to live), on Newland Avenue, is a small computer shop called Computech - been going for around 5 years I think.
The guy who owns it is just the opposite - always helpful, happy to just talk about the options, will always try to find the right solution for you - even offers to order stuff as a one off if he doesn't have it in stock. Also not afraid to advise you that product xxxx just isn't worthwhile, and you'd be better off with product yyyy, which is a cheaper alternative. Good prices too.

Just shows you, depends entirely on the person you encounter.

I prefer the personal experience of using smaller shops (not to mention the ethical dimension) - I tend to buy my meat from the butchers (although I'm in-between good butchers at the moment), my veg from the greengrocers ("Beanies", Crookes Valley Road, Sheffield - Superb greengrocers with a massive organic range), and my dry goods from a wholefood store ("Down to Earth, Sharrowvale Road, Sheffield" - best wholefood store I've ever seen). Most of the people who work in all of them are friendly and a pleasure to deal with.
Contrast that with the local Co-op supermarket where I buy my bread and milk on a daily basis - miserable staff, depressing atmosphere, soulless experience.

Andy, I'd advise you to just try to find a better small computer shop - that one obviously sucks, and will ultimately fold as a result, most likely. Small shops tend to rely more on individual customer relationships and repeat trade - if they are unwilling to even google a bit of memory for a customer they are unlikely to build such relationships.
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Re: Small computer shops
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2007, 02:43:57 PM »
I fairly regularly buy stuff from one of two local PC shops here.

Disk Depot and AW Computers

Both have good people working in them.

I went into AW a few weeks ago with a PS2 network adapter and asked for a Maxtor 80GB hd for it.  I stated that I would buy it only if it physically fitted to the adapter (Sony decided to have the connectors solidly attatched to the circuit board so they can't be moved).

He walked over to a shelf, picked up a Maxtor Diamond Plus 80GB HD, opened it and attatched it to the adapter.  "That'll be £40 please" :-D

Never had a problem with Disk Depot either.  Infact, I couldn't get into the shop so I ordered online.  There was a delay in getting the items out to me so the owner of the shop (who's not usually in the shop during the week) drove out and hand delivered it to me :-)

Later on I found out that the owner's wife knows my sister (I think both taught at the same school).

Maybe we're just lucky that we have 2 good shops here, but I think there is another PC shop here that's crap.  Can't remember the name of it though.
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Re: Small computer shops
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2007, 04:55:12 AM »
I have a nice local computer shop, good service and prices. What they haven't got, they are more than happy to get, plus they are more than willing to let me take things home to test first. I really don't like talking to a computer screen when I'm parting with considerable amounts of money, so IMO, the small computer shop still has a place, you just have to find the right one.
 

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Re: Small computer shops
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2007, 07:11:12 AM »
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He walked over to a shelf, picked up a Maxtor Diamond Plus 80GB HD, opened it and attatched it to the adapter. "That'll be £40 please"


That's rather steep for a small HD. :-o
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Re: Small computer shops
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2007, 01:32:13 PM »
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That's rather steep for a small HD. :-o

I know, but I was willing to pay that for the HD as it was exactly what I needed, and if there were any problems with it I could just go back to the shop with it.  I'd explained what it was for and asked about returns/replacement policy.

If I'd ordered it online and there was a problem with it on the PS2 I'd have a bit more difficulty in getting a replacement.  Especially as most computer shops (online or not) only test things on PCs.

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And the fact that I could take it home and plug it into the PS2 right away is a great bonus :-D
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Re: Small computer shops
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2007, 06:03:39 PM »
After reading you replies I decided that I would try to find another shop.  

It turns out there is another shop on the other side of town so I gave them a quick call.  There apparently wasn't anyone available who could answer my query so they said they'd call me back in a few minutes, which was fair enough.  An hour and a half later I get a call.  

The guy tells me they only have the largest size in that type and told me what the price was -  £30 more than I could get it for elsewhere.  He could tell from my response that I thought it was pricey and added that the price included installation.

I told him I just wanted the part and didn't need installation.  He insisted that they install it themselves to make sure everything was ok and Windows accepted it.  I wasn't buying it and told him it was a Mac (and so they probably wouldn't even know where to check to see if the OS could see the RAM).

This seemed to throw him and he asked if he would phone me back in 10 mins and put the phone down while I was saying "Errr".  

A couple of minutes later he called me back and in an almost congratulatory tone told me that they could install it for me today.  He asked if I was local (presumably so they could charge me to send someone out).  

Once again I was completely confused.  Although this time it was the opposite of what happened on Friday.  There, I was trying desperately to buy something and the guy wasn't going to let me.  In this case I didn't want the item (and certainly not installation) and the guy was acting like it was a done sale, despite the fact that I'd never said I was going to buy it - I was only inquiring if they had any and what price it was.

He then said "Excuse me for one moment" the phone went silent for about 20 seconds then he returned and said "Sorry about that.  Okay then, bye!" and hung up.

So I went straight online, saw PC World had some in stock.  Went and picked it up from there without any fuss or waiting (there was a vultur..er..salesman on me almost as soon as I walked in) came home and plonked it in the iBook in literally 2 minutes.  Switched on, all was working fine, and over with - and cheaper than elsewhere.

It seems that I have the crappiest luck with these small computer shops.
 

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Re: Small computer shops
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2007, 08:23:57 PM »
Most smaller computer shops in Helsingborg have vanished. There is only three serious ones left (compared to the ten-ish there was ten years ago), four if you count the Mac store (but we all know that Macs aren't computers, don't we? ;-)).

Nothing wrong with their competence though.
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Re: Small computer shops
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2007, 01:58:22 PM »
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It seems that I have the crappiest luck with these small computer shops.
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Re: Small computer shops
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2007, 03:26:42 PM »
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It seems that I have the crappiest luck with these small computer shops.
are you sure you showered that day????


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Re: Small computer shops
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2007, 11:18:55 PM »
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Well, you know what they say about students! ;-)


By turning your underwear inside out you can get at least two days wear, thus saving time, water and detergent :lol:
 

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Re: Small computer shops
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2007, 11:25:45 PM »
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Well, you know what they say about students! ;-)


By turning your underwear inside out you can get at least two days wear, thus saving time, water and detergent :lol:


Eco-pants! :lol:
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Re: Small computer shops
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2007, 11:31:43 PM »
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Eco-pants! :lol:


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Re: Small computer shops
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2007, 11:56:27 PM »
Cannonfodder wrote:
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Well, you know what they say about students!

By turning your underwear inside out you can get at least two days wear, thus saving time, water and detergent

By then turning it back to front you can get another (less comfortable) two days wear.
By the end of the 4-day cycle the crusty bits from day 1 have flaked away, and the whole thing begins over again. Genius!:lol:

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Re: Small computer shops
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2007, 11:17:33 AM »
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Underpants for todays Eco-warrior :lol:


Well, it balances out the environmental destruction caused by my er emissions.   :egad: