Amiga doorstop!!!

[coldfish]

I tend to agree with guru-666, I like the classic Amigas in their original form.

[rkauer]

I prefer a mid-way option:

I really LOVE my Miggys. Even for today's use.

So I made a MediTator tower myself, hacking a crappy Frankenstein. But I keep a not-that-good A1200 and other good oldyes (500/600/2000Toaster) to back-days apps. The Windoz CRAP is ages after Amiga today.

 But guess what system is my preference? Yup: Workbench. Tiny, smart, reliable.

 No need to "update" every week. No need to buy expensive/monster-brute-force hardware ever six months to still play "Freecell" in a decent speed.

 And YES! I want to use it for every day "serious" work. Don't get me :crazy:, I don't to :horse:.

 Yes, I noticed today's hardware for Amigas are no more. No super-duper-hiper-mega-combo-blaster-WTF brand new boards or apps.

 The 1st reason I love this abandonned hardware is quite simple: is a machine 10 years before is age! A bloody $$$$ 1200 can do "almost" a peecee crappy box can do.

 No DVD tools? Did you check aminet last week? Ok, only for Mophos, but who cares? All I want is mail, some IRC, web browsing, word processing, see some pics (naked hot girls!!!!! Yes! Yes!) and gaming a little. Need you a US$2k Bill Gaytes box for this? Bloody hell, NO!

 That was my 2 cents...

[uncharted]

guru-666 wrote:

@swift240
"I then burnt a CD using CDburner, that really impressed him."

some ppl are very easy to impress I guess!! LOL My point is did you tell him how much it COST you to burn that CD?

"I also showed him Jabberwocky and other Internet stuff, SimpleMail Newscoaster, Yam."

did you show him how well the browers work?  thats alwasy IMPRESSIVE!

It's not about being negative, its about being realistic.
When he gets an amiga he should know, it's just for tinkering, otherwise he will be deapointed and out a LOT of cash....

Handy hint no. 26:

Actually reading and understanding a post before replying can help prevent you looking like a total prick.

[TiredOLife]

@Rkauer

There is FryingPan for DVD burning on classic Amigas.
Think it works for Morphos, AROS and OS4.0 as well.

[swift240]

@guru-666
What do you mean how much did it COST?
Well the LiteOn CD burner cost me the same amount as you would pay out for a LiteOn CD burner for a PC.
I paid £15.00 for it NEW in the box.
The software I used was MakeCD cost FREE with serial number.

The CD`s I used was no more than the normal cost of blank CD`s
So are you are talking like it COST a great deal to buy the CD burner and software?

Tell you what why don`t we all slag the Amiga off and say how it cant do this, how it cant do that, and lets not forget how COSTLY it is.
I have 2 CD drives in my Tower and they both cost the SAME as for a PC as they did for the Amiga.
I have 2 HD`s in my Amiga they both cost the same as if they was for a PC as they was for the Amiga.

I use a 17" monitor and that cost the same for a PC as it did for the Amiga.

In actual fact this is how much I paid for each:-

1 LiteOn CD burner £15.00
1 52x CD rom 7.50
1 13Gig HD £4.00 eBay
1 10Gig HD £3.99 eBay
1 Powertower case WITH 1200 mobo internal flopy drive, and PSU, with 2 HD slide in bays all for £77.99
1 Mediator SX 6 slot £169.99
1 Amiga SpeedMouse £3.00
1 PC keyboard £4.00
1 PC keyboard adapter £14.99 eBay
1 4way IDe`99 HD adapter £19.99
1 Apollo Turbo MK-iii accelerator 030/40 £34.99 eBay
1 32meg Ram 72pin £1.00 eBay
Now remember the Powertower came with that lot on board.
So break that down and think of the money if they was all separate.

Ohhh yes the OS3.9 CD was 29.99 can you pay that much for a LEGAL OS for any PC? Like Winodws 2000, Windows XP Home Edition or XP Pro?

Meaning OS for OS between the Amiga and a PC?

No of course the Amiga CAN NOT play DVD films or HD (High Definition)
But then again any one knowing that an 68030/40Mhz cant do that will already know that.

What do you really expect ?
An Amiga 1200 to play DVD and HD? or to use 3D like a modern day powerful PC?
We all if not most of us already know that a an Amiga CANT, thats why most of us have PC`s to do that job.
Well I use my Athlon to do that sort of thing, and I use my Amiga for all other stuff as I like it that way.

[guru-666]

@swift240
ahh what the hell.

as for OS's....
unbutu is free, it can burn cd and dvds right out of the box,  you see that are many OS's other than windows and amigaOS, there are options!

The only thing I want from my amigas is a bit of oldschool fun, I'm not looking ot impress anybody, I'm not looking to make money or invent a modern day amiga.

in the end I'm just suprised that anybody is impressed by the things you mentioned, but I guess many people have never used anyting other than a windows box and just assume other computers suck, which they don't!


"Well I use my Athlon to do that sort of thing, and I use my Amiga for all other stuff as I like it that way."

thats my point why waist time and money forcing the amiga to do things that it sucks at, like surfing the web or doing USB stuff.

[TiredOLife]

@Guru-666

Hey, less of that accusational,imflamatory talk.
That can get people into trouble.
I didn't force my Miggy to do anything.
It wanted to do it.
 :-D  :-D

[amiga92570]

coldfish wrote:
I tend to agree with guru-666, I like the classic Amigas in their original form.

I like them all.  I have quite a few original, and the Frankenstein setups. They all have their purpose, I enjoy them all. I like the 3000t best, but they are very heavy. One of my projects if I ever finish is to make an aluminum chassis for one of my 3000t's.

[coldfish]

@amiga92570,

I dunno, I had a semi-franken-amiga and felt I had actually removed some of the hardware's charm.  In the end the A1200 went back to its native case and I got a PC for the more demanding tasks.

@rkauer

I never understand why people "hate" PCs.  You dont -have- to upgrade unless you want the latest and greatest stuff. I'm using a late 90's win2000pro P3 laptop as my "net-connected-box" to type this, it cost me AUD$200 s/h and has been in use every day for about 2 years, with Kerio and AVG (both free) 2K still runs just as fast as when I first installed it, (just stay away from pr0n sites).  
I have 3 other PCs that have been very reliable, one runs Ubuntu, one is a high-end XPbased video editing suite and the third a XP based HTPC with emulators and AVstuff galore.

I -wish- I could say my Amigas were as versatile, functional and affordable back when I had them.

btw, An A500 isnt even very good as a doorstop, its better as a chock to stop your car rolling away. :-D

[Dandy]

guru-666 wrote:
@amigadave

...
The truth is I don't like converted amiga towers, I think they are ugly, I love the real amiga 1200, I honestly can say I have never seen a "fake" tower that I liked.
I also don't care much for the mediator, so when I hear ppl saing how great that crap is I just can't feel it.  
...
 

 :shrug:

[stopthegop]

value is based on rarity, not on any given usefulness

emmm.. wrong.  

Because everything built for PCs is designed to be obsolete right after you buy it, anything more than five or ten years old can be considered "rare".  Go into any PC or Mac shop and ask for a Nubus card, or a serial mouse, or the retail version of Windows NT4.0 Workstation, or an ISA soundcard, or a Pentium Pro 233 CPU.  You'll get a lecture about the "scarcity" of these items, but does that automatically mean they have value?  No.  Most of that crap has no value because... its crap!  There ain't a lot of nostalgia surrounding the x486 nor a lot of websites dedicated to promoting its upappreciated virtues.  No one gives a sh1t about the x486 because it was a piece of garbage to begin with.  Items of that vintage for PCs are "rare" because they suck and no one wants them. Hence they have no value.  Items of that vintage for the Amiga, on the other hand, were designed for a vastly superior computer -- one that does have a lot of nostalgia surrounding it and one that, because of its forward-thinking, modular design, can still be used professionally for many things despite being almost 20 years old.  Can someone please tell me just how badass their x486 is?  

[koaftder]

I remember drooling over the 486 back in the day. Playing Descent, Duke Nukem, Raise of the Tirad, Doom and rocking Future Crew demos on a 486DX2/66 was the bomb.

Of course the 486 has little value today, thats not because it was crap hardware, it's because the platform didn't die. Newer and better products followed, unlike Amiga. This is why a 486 can be had for free but a tricked out Amiga costs more than a Mac Pro.

[swift240]

@stopthegop

I had a few 486`s in my time, and to be honest I had more problems with those than I ever did with any Amiga.

The best one was a DX486/100 that was not to bad at all, but all the same it did give me problems, but as with my A600 (way back then) I had no problems what so ever, that A600 with 1Meg of extra ram was far more stable and far more reliable than any 486 or Pentium 233 of the time.

[jimeh]

For what they are, they're good. An amiga with a 700k floppy and 1mb ram and no HDD got you a LOT farther than a 386 with similar specs... back in the day... And who doesnt love MOD music!

But you really wont be impressing a 8800GTX user playing Crysis with your 13GB HDD, even if it goes up to 40GB...

a 320GB 16mb cashe PC SATA2 HDD is only $107AUD :/

Its funny... i could so have been one of the avid "neversaydie" amiga fanboys. All i needed was any little thing to keep me going... a friend with an amiga! even if they didnt lose the last PD stand at the computer swapmeet.

They died! this site is tripping me out!!

the Red and white globe icon? what?!

i had workbench 1.3.3 and no nothing of the above and beyond.

[McVenco]

jimeh wrote:

But you really wont be impressing a 8800GTX user playing Crysis with your 13GB HDD, even if it goes up to 40GB...

And where on this site did you read that we DO want to impress such a person?

They died! this site is tripping me out!!

We know. We don't care. We like fiddling about with old computers. It's like people who still play on Famicoms, Colecovisions and the Commodore 64. When have you heard someone say that his NES totally kicked a WII's a$$?

[amazing]

@jimeh
i dont know what u trying to do here but it looks like u are a bit frustrated that the amiga is still live and kicking

the games on a winblows machine are that dirty machinecoded that u need almost 2gig ram  and 512mb vidcard to play it...

even then it crashes severall times even on vista