Amiga doorstop!!!

[scuzzb494]

Hi

Well done....

What you demonstrated is that anyone, I mean anyone can own a PC, but only a select determined, dedicated and very lucky few can own the kind of kit you have.

A magical story, and one I could read over and over again.

scuzz
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com

[B00tDisk]

spirantho wrote:

guru-666 wrote:
I assume you forgot to mention that your "power tower" is more expencive that the blazing PC he had built.

He may also have forgotten to mention that his power tower will be worth a lot more in some years' time than his blazing PC will be.....

(compare the prices of a 10 or 15 year old Amiga hardware on eBay now with the prices of similar PC hardware).

That value is based on rarity, not on any given usefulness.  Here's an example: any old copy of TSR's Dungeon Masters Guide for AD&D can be had for $2.00.  However, even people who don't play any version of the D&D rules, but instead other fantasy RPGs, still regard it as a great gaming tool.

On the other hand, this little jewel:

http://acaeum.com/ddindexes/modpages/st.html

...in mint condition will set you back nearly three grand.  I have a .PDF scan of it and you know what?  It's utter junk.  But ooooh boy it's rare rare rare so that means it's more valuable...monitarily.  

:idea:

Or to put it in a way that amigans in general might find less offensive, how much is 3.9 + attendant 3.1 ROMS?  Now how much is a copy of Windows XP corporate everything?

Just because something has a high price it doesn't follow that it has a high value.

[guru-666]

@amigadave
I dunno, It's nice, I guess.  

The truth is I don't like converted amiga towers, I think they are ugly, I love the real amiga 1200, I honestly can say I have never seen a "fake" tower that I liked.
I also don't care much for the mediator, so when I hear ppl saing how great that crap is I just can't feel it.  

@bootdisk and @spirantho
Having spent a fortune on amiga parts I can tell you, they are NOT going to be worth more in 10 years, they are worth much less than they where 10 years ago. I sure hope I'm wrong, becasue I have a lot of amiga stuff.  If anything a power tower will be worth LESS becasue he hacked up a perfectly good amiga into a tin can.

I still like the amiga but having a wide range of computers to play with, the amiga is SO very lacking in so many areas I often use other boxes.
(no not windows as some of you think that is the ONLY other option)
It's cool to find ppl that grew up with amiga and talk about how cool they where, I just don't see how you can get into it right now... it's very $$$ with limited results.


@swift240
"I then burnt a CD using CDburner, that really impressed him."

some ppl are very easy to impress I guess!! LOL My point is did you tell him how much it COST you to burn that CD?

"I also showed him Jabberwocky and other Internet stuff, SimpleMail Newscoaster, Yam."

did you show him how well the browers work?  thats alwasy IMPRESSIVE!

It's not about being negative, its about being realistic.
When he gets an amiga he should know, it's just for tinkering, otherwise he will be deapointed and out a LOT of cash....


@Framiga
takes one to know one, pal.

[Hans_]

guru-666 wrote:
@swift240
"I then burnt a CD using CDburner, that really impressed him."

some ppl are very easy to impress I guess!! LOL My point is did you tell him how much it COST you to burn that CD?

"I also showed him Jabberwocky and other Internet stuff, SimpleMail Newscoaster, Yam."

did you show him how well the browers work?  thats alwasy IMPRESSIVE!

It's not about being negative, its about being realistic.
When he gets an amiga he should know, it's just for tinkering, otherwise he will be deapointed and out a LOT of cash....

My guess is that he was impressed because he thought that Amigas were ancient history that just weren't capable of anything like the stuff mentioned above. The fact that an old, out of date, 40 MHz computer that you thought was only good for playing (the original) lemmings can do these things, could be seen as impressive.

Hans

[TiredOLife]

@Guru-666

What planet are you on?
You claim to like Amigas but seem more interested in slagging it of because of it's limitations.
Yet you want to keep them limited by not towerising and using the likes of the Mediator.
(A great little bit of kit btw)
 :roll:

[guru-666]

See I happen to think lemmings is a better use of an old amiga!

@TiredOLife
limited? nah, just get a 4000d or t if you want to expand, I don't like hacky hardware, like mediator..(you do, oh well :whack: )  Never had the need for PCI or USB on any amiga I owned. why? the amiga does those things poorly.  It does other thigns well!  I like the toaster/flyer and still use that form time to time.  
I have many bix box amigas and use network card to connect them via NFS to my network.  Ihave beeter machines that do USB very well!

I don't want to keep them limited, I just dont; want to create a frankinstein box that is weak and $$$ at the end of the day.   Amigas are great right out of the BOX man!

[TiredOLife]

@Guru-666

Frankenstien like?
Letting your imagination run away with you.
Its a box with components in, same as any other computer.
You don't appear to have a problem with other big box machines.
I have large files, programs, mp3's etc that I need to transport to other computers from time to time.
Suggest an alternative better than a USB flash pen.
USB works well for me.
Define poorly.

I have my Miggy attached to a 19 inch TFT
Have two hds,floppy drive, a cd rewriter and dvd rewriter.
A Blizzard 1260 and FastATA ide interface.
Sound card, network card, USB card, graphics and TV card.
Have a mutiple flash card reader.
Would have a hell of a job runnning this lot without a tower and mediator.
Hacky?
Works well enough for me.
 :-D

[guru-666]

then enjoy it, I'm not so insane that I need to insult your setup.  It is yours.  

I perfer origional amigas. They look better.


one definition of hacky could be:

hacky, forcing something to do something it was not designed for, IOW making a 1200 have USB and a video card. Ripping it out of its case and wrapping it in tin foil (my opinion on power towers) and calling it "grovvy"  = hacky. (and tacky)

now there maybe more definitions of "hacky" and that's cool....



as to the mediator, there maybe more technical people that can tell why is a half ass USB stack....

[TiredOLife]

To be honest, I don't think the 1200 looked that good in it's original casing.
Bit of a backward step in that respect when compared to the A500.
The A600 because it had no numeric keypad, looked even worse than the 1200.

[guru-666]

transfering large files?  
CD's are easy
using a networks is the best. I haven an NFS server that stores all my files fro all my computers.


well that's cool, I disagree.  I like the 4000 (T) the best.  I don't have a 1200 becasue it can't do what I want but I think it looks neat.  I like the samll form factor more and more.  It's smart they put the PSU outside ofthe case so it's quite and low heat!  I may just have to get a 1200 one day.. want ti to play old games!

[TiredOLife]

CDs are not as quick and a pen fits easier in a pocket.
Large files over a network isn't brilliant either or always possible.
The A4000 does look the business.
The A1200 looks a bit toy like.

[guru-666]

networks works fine for me, beside it's all backed up adn easy to manage.

the 1200 does look like a toy, a great, fun and interesting toy!  

the power tower looks like a regular PC or some kind of doorstop. LOL
 :horse:

[mikrucio]

Nice one man!! nice too see a 10 year old Amiga can still turn heads...

Everyone Crank JIM POWER!!

[TiredOLife]

Using a Mirage myself.
Quite like the green front.
Suppose it's not that much different from any other PC box though.
What happened to beauty is only skin deep?
I though it was what is inside that counts.
 :-D  :-D

[amigakid]

Thats sweet.  Nice job on that, and yes the Amiga still rocks.

[coldfish]

I tend to agree with guru-666, I like the classic Amigas in their original form.