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Offline trekiejTopic starter

What if?
« on: June 11, 2007, 09:39:08 PM »
If the Amiga was to come back, how many of us would be ready to make apps for it?

Also, how many companies do you think could respond as well?

 :-?
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Re: What if?
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2007, 09:57:40 PM »
I will.  Cross my heart and hope to die.

As soon as they release the $489 Amigas I'm on it, both as a hobbyist and professional.
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Re: What if?
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2007, 10:06:38 PM »
We still develop actively on the Amiga, the current projects are EasyNet and EasyADF.  Other companies such as Alinea Computer, Rune-Soft are still actively developing software.

However, if the market was larger, undoubtedly there would be a greater developer talent pool to draw on.  We all want innovative Amiga hardware available again. You need the customer base there to fund the hardware being developed.  Users are only attracted to the Amiga platform by quality software.  Developers are only attracted to innovative hardware. Catch 22.

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Re: What if?
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2007, 10:34:18 PM »
ohh come on man, you are on drugs again!

 

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Re: What if?
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2007, 10:44:43 PM »
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trekiej wrote:
If the Amiga was to come back, how many of us would be ready to make apps for it?

Also, how many companies do you think could respond as well?

 :-?


Amiga might sell a couple of hundred machines to the fanatic few still left and a couple of curious newcomers.  That might get about 4 or 5 hobbyist programmers to think of writing a few utilities and one or two new applications for Amigas.

If you are expecting anything more than that, you are only setting yourself up for disappointment, and I am one of the couple of hundred that actually still spends money on Amiga programs.

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Re: What if?
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2007, 10:51:36 PM »
This is wishful thinking again.  We get this all the time here.  I mean its not IMPOSSIBLE but very very improbable.  Lets just stop daydreaming and just see what happens.  Cheers.
 

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Re: What if?
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2007, 11:03:31 PM »
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I will.  Cross my heart and hope to die.

As soon as they release the $489 Amigas I'm on it, both as a hobbyist and professional.


Bahaha.

Do you really think those will get produced, much less sold?
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Re: What if?
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2007, 12:47:59 AM »
actually it's not unlikely that they manage to sell them (t-shirts anyone?)

I highly doubt they will ever be produced though.
 

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Re: What if?
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2007, 06:26:53 AM »
PC pushers have been incredibly adept over the years at using language to frustrate -and ultimately eradicate- competitors, including the Amiga.  To 99.999% of all people, when they make reference to a "computer" they are talking about a PC, and nothing else.  Most people would be suprised to learn that "computer" and "PC" are anything but synonomous and totally interchangeable.  The brainwashing is so effective that any word juxtoposed with "computer" other than "PC", such as "Amiga Computer" would be rejected by the public automatically.  

Ironically, a strong case could be made that "modern" PCs aren't even real computers, according to the definition of "computer" and by historical precedent.  The Oxford American dictionary defines a computer as a machine that stores and analyzes data fed into it and makes calculations using pulses of electricity. During the first half of the 20th century, the race to build the world's first  computer was hinged on a subtle but important question implied by that definition--the question of what separated a true computer from everything else.  

The disqualifier was whether or not a device was reliant on mechanical devices to work; Computers were not- that is, the storing, the analyzing, and the calculating could all be done electronically.  If it required mechanical parts to operate then, by definition, it was not a computer.    

So, can you run your Vista box without a mechanical hard drive?  My A1200 can.        :-P
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Re: What if?
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2007, 09:16:19 AM »
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skurk wrote:
I will.  Cross my heart and hope to die.

As soon as they release the $489 Amigas I'm on it, both as a hobbyist and professional.


Bahaha.

Do you really think those will get produced, much less sold?


Guess I should've said "If", not "As soon as".

But I do have a good gut feeling this time; keeping my fingers crossed.
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Re: What if?
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2007, 09:53:27 AM »
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stopthegop:  The brainwashing is so effective that any word juxtoposed with "computer" other than "PC", such as "Amiga Computer" would be rejected by the public automatically.

I don't want "the public" dumbing-down my platform.  The Amiga (whatever that means these days) could only appeal to geeks in the short term.

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So, can you run your Vista box without a mechanical hard drive? My A1200 can.

So a PC with a hard drive isn't a computer, it's a calculating machine?

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Re: What if?
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2007, 09:56:04 AM »
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trekiej wrote:
If the Amiga was to come back, how many of us would be ready to make apps for it?

I'm continuing to work on ports during my spare time, on OS4. Once I'll have enough skills I'd love to start with a project of my own, too. The recent beta release of Allegro should make further interesting ports possible, although not as many as with SDL.

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Re: What if?
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2007, 10:35:36 AM »
I've moved on - can't see myself switching back to AmigaOS now. Lack of applications and the additionsl expense, not to mention that I would have no interest at all in a custom piece of hardware that would be obsoleted as soon as their manufacturer went out of business. It wouldn't matter if it was a $99 computer - it's too late.

Six years ago it might have been a different story, but even then I wasn't keen on a new hardware platform. It didn't make any sense then and it doesn't now.
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Re: What if?
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2007, 10:39:38 AM »
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So, can you run your Vista box without a mechanical hard drive? My A1200 can.


Rather run AROS on this.  Floppy drive is a mechanical, can your A1200 run without either a floppy or hard drive?  This can!

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Re: What if?
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2007, 10:51:04 AM »
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The disqualifier was whether or not a device was reliant on mechanical devices to work; Computers were not- that is, the storing, the analyzing, and the calculating could all be done electronically.  If it required mechanical parts to operate then, by definition, it was not a computer.    

So, can you run your Vista box without a mechanical hard drive?  My A1200 can.        :-P

Who came up with that piece of crass stupidity?

Just how useful is you A1200 without hard drive or floppy? How useful is a C64 without a disk drive or tape deck? Or indeed without a joystick as well?

To be honest, this is the real reason why the Amiga was never revived - incompetence and corruption notwithstanding. Too many amongst the Amiga die-hards are just not capable of thinking progressively and just live in some rose-tinted view of the past.

Personally, I think the Amigs should now be allowed to rest in honour. The name and brand have been dragged through the mud for long enough by people who claimed to have the community at heart but in fact just served their own inflated egos.
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