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Shapeshifter config for Mac OS 8.1?
« on: June 09, 2007, 11:20:29 AM »
In a recent thread about Shapeshifter, it was mentioned that Mac OS 8.1 can be persuaded to boot under emulation. Please could someone who has got this working post their Shapeshifter configuration (including ROM details if possible)? I can't get to work. I booted from the Starter image from Emaculation and installed 8.1 inside a hardfile from my original 8.1 CD. The emulator starts to boot 8.1 then the Amiga reboots. I had the same problem on my A1200 and now my A4000. I also tried installing 8.0 first, which worked, but then the same thing happened when I upgraded it to 8.1.

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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
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Re: Shapeshifter config for Mac OS 8.1?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2007, 11:51:04 AM »
MacOS 8.1 has some problem with bb2 3.9 romupdate..
try to disable it when you want to use macos8.1

at least it is a chance :)

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Re: Shapeshifter config for Mac OS 8.1?
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2007, 12:23:20 PM »
Never got 8.1 working with ShapeShifter, but it does work with Fusion though...
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Re: Shapeshifter config for Mac OS 8.1?
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2007, 05:22:00 PM »
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The emulator starts to boot 8.1 then the Amiga reboots. I had the same problem on my A1200 and now my A4000.



Same behaviour here... I thought it was just an issue on my configuration.

Any suggestion is welcome!!!

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Re: Shapeshifter config for Mac OS 8.1?
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2007, 06:14:38 PM »
Has anyone here used iFusion PPC and do you know what is the highest version of MacOS you can use with it?  Also what are the limitations of iFusion and what Amiga peripherals are available to the iFusion PPC Mac emulation?

Having a real MacBook, I don't know that emulating a slow Mac on my CyberStorm PPC is worth the trouble, but I might want to do it just because I bought iFusion years ago and never installed it and would like to test out how well it works.

Also there may be many old Mac programs that are entertaining and not available as Amiga programs.
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Re: Shapeshifter config for Mac OS 8.1?
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2007, 06:33:43 PM »
I've had MacOS8.1 running under ShapeShifter. Installed it directly from the CD.

Today, however, I can't get it to work. I've followed some guide and installed the OS without the PPC-specific stuff but it still freezes during boot (and, also worth noting is that my installer offers nowhere near the same options as the one in the guide... there must be different versions of MacOS8.1 floating about).

I'm really interested in getting it up and running aswell, if not only to play around a bit in WarCraft II and DarkForces.
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Re: Shapeshifter config for Mac OS 8.1?
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2007, 06:40:00 PM »
@ Legerdemain

You don't need MacOS 8.1 for that; I use 7.5.5 and that runs both of those games fine. Best of all 7.5.5 is freely available from Apple and in different languages too!
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Re: Shapeshifter config for Mac OS 8.1?
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2007, 06:46:44 PM »
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You don't need MacOS 8.1 for that; I use 7.5.5 and that runs both of those games fine. Best of all 7.5.5 is freely available from Apple and in different languages too!


Are you sure? I've never ever gotten WarCraft II to run on my 060 under anything less than 8.x, since the earlier versions doesn't really support the processor (I've been told). On my older B1230 it worked perfectly on no matter what version of the OS above 7.5.5 I used.

But, even so, I still see it as a must to get MacOS8.1 up and running... it has become an obstacle to overcome. I will not give up until I get it running...

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Re: Shapeshifter config for Mac OS 8.1?
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2007, 07:01:53 PM »
Hehe I understand your 8.1 obsession! Have it myself too... and it runs on Fusion. Will try ShapeShifter later again.

To make Warcraft II run you need CFM 68k Runtime Enabler 4.0 (I think it was called) in 7.5.x. This is already built in in 7.6 and 8.x. Just google it and you can download it.
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Re: Shapeshifter config for Mac OS 8.1?
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2007, 07:22:01 PM »
Where can I get Fusion?
I really need MacOs 8.1 for a software that requires it as minimum os.
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Re: Shapeshifter config for Mac OS 8.1?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2007, 09:48:38 PM »
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Where can I get Fusion?
I really need MacOs 8.1 for a software that requires it as minimum os.


I think Software Hut has it in stock.
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Re: Shapeshifter config for Mac OS 8.1?
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2007, 11:14:13 PM »
@motorollin

I have 8.1 running here on Shapeshifter and it works fine (BB2 and all).

It's been a long time, but I do remember the install being tricky.  It seems like I may have ended up doing the actual install in Basilisk on Windows (they can use the same hard files).

My config:
Graphics: CyberGFX/P96 (8bit), Black border -- nothing else checked
Memory: 8191kb, Alloc MacRom first, Any memory
Miscl: Everything checked but write-protect ROM (greyed here) -- IMPORTANT that MacOS 8 Mode is checked

The ROM is from my LC/Performa 575 (an old '040 Mac)

Hope this helps.

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Re: Shapeshifter config for Mac OS 8.1?
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2007, 11:59:34 AM »
Thanks Ken. I replicated your Shapeshifter configuration but the same thing happens. I also tried installing 8.1 inside Basilisk II on my MacBook and then copying the hardfile to my Amiga and booting from it, but the same thing happened.

I also tried Fusion (thanks for that suggestion). I set it up the same as Shapeshifter, but nothing happens when I start the emulation. It doesn't even open the screen  :-?

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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

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Re: Shapeshifter config for Mac OS 8.1?
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2007, 12:05:28 PM »
Also I have just tried Basilisk II. This hangs when starting to boot MacOS 8.1. Only the emulator hangs in this case. If I LAMIGA-M back to Workbench, that is still responding.

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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

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Re: Shapeshifter config for Mac OS 8.1?
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2007, 12:14:03 PM »
To summarise, using the same ROM file and hardfile (containing Mac OS 8.1, installed using Basilisk II on a MacBook), the following occur:

Shapeshifter: Hangs/Reboots the Amiga
Fusion: Emulation does not even start
Basilisk II (Amiga): Emulation hangs during Mac OS boot. Amiga still responds
Basilisk II (OSX): Mac OS 8.1 boots perfectly

If anyone can help me get any of the 3 Amiga emulators working, I would be very grateful.

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moto
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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10