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Re: Amiga One vs. Pegasos
« Reply #44 from previous page: June 22, 2003, 07:33:07 PM »
Hey mikeymike,

How about a poll?

Several options

1) I'm sick of the pointless tit for tat...
2) I love the pointless tit for tat...
3) I'm a Peg/MOS troll
4) I'm a A1/OS4 troll
5) I'm leaving...
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Re: Amiga One vs. Pegasos
« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2003, 07:39:47 PM »
I agree with KennyR about A1/OS4/A.inc but I'd like to note @MikeyMike I disagree about MOS zealots bieng worse :P ... (to make my point I suggest you talk to 'the bus arch troll' )
 

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Re: Amiga One vs. Pegasos
« Reply #46 on: June 22, 2003, 07:50:54 PM »
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by Brian on 2003/6/22 2:22:24

The OS is what makes an Amiga and so Peg/MOS is no alternative to me since I want AmigaOS. I can't agree on the Professionalism with so much FUD originating from them.

Don't know if this is correct any longer but at AmiGBG03 I was told by one of the Peg demo crew that a PegG3/600 could only run 68K apps at about half the speed of a 060/50 with the JIT they had. Feels like a downgrade to me when knowing that I would run a bunch of old software on a new machine.



I can speak from experience here. The Peg1G3/600 runs 68k code faster than any 060 I've ever used, without JIT. Perhaps things have changed over the months.

It certainly is not a downgrade, since I can run 68k stuff, WarpOS stuff, PowerUp stuff, and the growing list of MOS native stuff.

Seems the Genisi team has delivered reality, a system that really works right now, and their customer support is second to none.  :-D  :-D

I showed off Peggy at a local Amiga User's group two weeks in a row, and the reaction was most impressive.  :-) There was an A1/XE at the meeting also, but it could only run Linux. If a comparison is to be made right now, the Pegasos is the clear winner for price, and it's ability to run Amiga software. Maybe the odds will even up a bit when AOS is released for the A1 sometime next year. The club members got to see registered MUI 3.9, registered Poseiden (working), and all sorts of other stuff.

Looking forward to MOS1.4.  :-D  :-?

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Re: Amiga One vs. Pegasos
« Reply #47 on: June 22, 2003, 08:05:04 PM »
@meerschaum

Mikeymike actually wrote 'just as bad', not worse ;-) Talk about getting all defensive :-P
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Re: Amiga One vs. Pegasos
« Reply #48 on: June 22, 2003, 09:23:18 PM »
@Brian
 It is absolute BS that Peg runs 68k apps half the speed of 060. I have a 4000T PPC 060 here running alongside the Peg and the Pegasos SMOKES it! The 4000T seems SLOW by comparison in general. For more info see my website and complete review of Pegasos/MOS:

www.magneticsystemsnyc.com

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Re: Amiga One vs. Pegasos
« Reply #49 on: June 22, 2003, 09:26:03 PM »
 :-o

I had no clue this would turn into such a heated debate, I mean dang... I ask a simple question, and it turns into a flame war.

If anything, the only differences I see between the 2 systems, are OS, and BIOS.

PowerPC is PowerPC.

There I answered my own question. :-)
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Re: Amiga One vs. Pegasos
« Reply #50 on: June 22, 2003, 10:41:53 PM »
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kubyx wrote:

If anything, the only differences I see between the 2 systems, are OS, and BIOS.


... and the hardware! Size, features, price ...
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

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Re: Amiga One vs. Pegasos
« Reply #51 on: June 22, 2003, 10:42:07 PM »
@ kubyx

Yeah, well, now you know.  Not to do it again.  :-)
 

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Re: Amiga One vs. Pegasos
« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2003, 11:15:40 PM »
Hi Hans-Jörg

Where did you get that blue pin from :-)
 

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Re: Amiga One vs. Pegasos
« Reply #53 on: June 22, 2003, 11:18:45 PM »
fatmouse dosent make threads, he makes them flamewars! :P
 

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Re: Amiga One vs. Pegasos
« Reply #54 on: June 23, 2003, 12:38:22 AM »
@Alkis Tsapanidis (AmiGR)

Hey mate  :-)
I'm originally from Veria
We're not very far! Are there any active Amiga users in Thessaloniki? Have u checked out the greek pegasos/Morphos website (http://www.pegasos-hellas.com)? It's quite embarasing with all those spelling mistakes! I wonder who runs it.... and for what reason!
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Re: Amiga One vs. Pegasos
« Reply #55 on: June 23, 2003, 03:49:51 AM »
Will it ever end?  ....  :roll:
 

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Re: Amiga One vs. Pegasos
« Reply #56 on: June 23, 2003, 04:20:30 AM »
I'm originally from Veria. We're not very far!
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Yep:-)

 Are there any active Amiga users in Thessaloniki?
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Yep. Not a lot of them though, about 10, 15max.

 Have u checked out the greek pegasos/Morphos website (http://www.pegasos-hellas.com)? It's quite embarasing with all those spelling mistakes! I wonder who runs it.... and for what reason!
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Yep, I know... It's a guy that wanted to be a Pegasos
reseller. I'm currently making my own site, the
Greek Pegasos User Group one. There are currently
4 Pegasos boards I know about in Greece and that
makes us 6-7 currently plus some that are interested
in the sport:-)
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Re: Amiga One vs. Pegasos
« Reply #57 on: June 23, 2003, 06:34:42 AM »
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Have u checked out the greek pegasos/Morphos website (http://www.pegasos-hellas.com)? It's quite embarasing with all those spelling mistakes!

You spelled 'embarrassing' wrong ;  }

..I guess if it matters, HELP the guy already! :  }  I'd proof his pages but I don't know the language. Or I'd send a translator -  oh, wait! - that's practically what I'm trying to do right now {AmiGR? ; }

Anyway, I've talked with the site owner and he seems to be a good guy.

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I wonder who runs it.... and for what reason!

I think the reason is pretty easy to grasp - even if I don't know Greek {PhiNiXi is supposedly based on three Greek characters - but from me, after all, that's just hearsay ;}
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Re: Amiga One vs. Pegasos
« Reply #58 on: June 23, 2003, 07:00:41 AM »
kubyx wrote:
>Pegasos has Firewire and Digital Audio onboard,

Yes, but no drivers. (yet)

Hopefully there appears those drivers for peg1, even though the focus will go to peg2...

>but Amiga One doesn't?

Right.
No digital audio output (only analog) or firewire.
Both can be added on PCI card, someday.

>Pegasos = ALOT cheaper too.

Right, if you can get your hands on one.

>Can Pegasos run Amiga OS 4 when it is released?

It could. But it can not because Genesi & Hyperion & Amiga Inc have not reached an agreement about that.

>Are there any major differences between the 2 systems?

Peg1 vs A1?

Not much. Peg1 should be slower because of the 100Mhz FSB, but so far it has not been proven in tests. A1 has the extra (fourth) PCI slot (which can not be used fully independently with the AGP card).

Peg1 looks more professional. Better layout, more polished and it already has a native AMigaOS -like OS. etc.

The biggest difference is that Peg1 can not run AOS4.x (and A1 can not run MOS).
And that A1 should now be more available than peg1, but only with Linux.
 

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Re: Amiga One vs. Pegasos
« Reply #59 on: June 23, 2003, 07:15:59 AM »
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Have u checked out the greek pegasos/Morphos website (http://www.pegasos-hellas.com)? It's quite embarasing with all those spelling mistakes!

You spelled 'embarrassing' wrong ;  }

..I guess if it matters, HELP the guy already! :  }  I'd proof his pages but I don't know the language. Or I'd send a translator -  oh, wait! - that's practically what I'm trying to do right now {AmiGR? ; }

Anyway, I've talked with the site owner and he seems to be a good guy.

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I wonder who runs it.... and for what reason!

I think the reason is pretty easy to grasp - even if I don't know Greek {PhiNiXi is supposedly based on three Greek characters - but from me, after all, that's just hearsay ;}


well sorry mate but as I mentioned before I'm originally from Greece. Greek is my first language. English is my second. The guy who made the greek morphos page is probably (99,9999%) greek so don't try to be smart about my English. On the other hand, if the guy who made the page is non-greek, I apologize!
As for the help you are telling me to offer, I tried to email him (her?) but the address seems to be dead!
Well, the greek Amiga community is ranging from really small to non-existant.  So the guy will have to promote the computer to a new, fresh consumer market. This is gonna be hard, really hard! Even Apple isn't doing well in Greece so you know what I'm talking about.
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