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Offline philtomoTopic starter

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Best and easiest way to backup my amiga games
« on: June 01, 2007, 03:41:23 PM »
Hi,

iv just recently bought an amiga 600 with loads of my old favourite games on, im just worried that being floppy disks that they will become unreadable (like most floppies do these days)
what is the best and/or easiest way of backing up my collection?
would it be a case of buying another floppy disk drive? and perfroming a clone between the two drives?
i know ages ago you could use software called x-copy?

any feedback would be grateful

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Re: Best and easiest way to backup my amiga games
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2007, 03:58:05 PM »
X-Copy might copy some of them, but not all. Best bet is to install them to hard disk with WHDLoad.

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Re: Best and easiest way to backup my amiga games
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2007, 04:01:04 PM »
thanks for your quick reply,

so i would copy the disk content to my hard dsik using "whdload" then how would i copy them back if the game became faulty?
is it an easy process
(sorry new to all this)

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Re: Best and easiest way to backup my amiga games
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2007, 04:07:13 PM »
Ahh, well WHDLoad patches the disk image it makes so it can run from HDD. You can't really write them back to disk. If you install them with WHDLoad then you would run them from Hard Disk and then store your disks safely.

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Re: Best and easiest way to backup my amiga games
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2007, 04:11:48 PM »
no, you need DMS
or nowadays maybe you should use TSgui
if games are originals and heavily protected you cannot create 1:1 copies.

you don't need another drive for diskette copying, its done via RAM. I'd suggest you also try D-Copy, its good alternative to X-Copy.
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Re: Best and easiest way to backup my amiga games
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2007, 04:15:24 PM »
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no, you need DMS

As long as the disk is not copy protected.

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Re: Best and easiest way to backup my amiga games
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2007, 06:05:01 PM »
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would it be a case of buying another floppy disk drive? and perfroming a clone between the two drives?


When using two drives myself I also connect a gadget called a Syncro Express by Datel Electronics between the Amiga and the external floppy drive. I've never found a disk that it won't backup for me :-)



Doubler is also pretty good for backing up your disks and can use just the one drive to do it. But as moto says they must not be copy protected  :-)



As orange says some of your disks may turn into DMS files. Packmaster is one program you could use for those :-)



And then there are ADF files too. ADF-Blitzer is dead easy to use as basically you just click on READ to create an ADF file of the floppy disk in the drive, or WRITE to unpack an ADF file onto a floppy disk :-)



Indeed the suggested WHDLoad in posts above is probably the best way of *preserving* your disks as theoretically you should never have to use them again. I use the great WHDLoad installers to get my games into hard drive and then compress the whole games drawer as an LHA file. This file can then be moved between your Amigas and unpacked to transfer the game. Hence, there is no need to use your floppy disks :pint:

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Re: Best and easiest way to backup my amiga games
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2007, 09:31:16 PM »
@philtomo

you could also try (if you have a valuable collection, and want floppy-copies) buying a catweasel controller for your pc/amiga.
the catweasel controller is like a super-floppydrive wich has very good reading algorithms that can read disks that don't copy well in other drives (this isn't guaranteed ofcourse).
what you end up with is the contents or an image of your contents on your pc hdd or on your amiga (then to be transfered to another floppy, in your case).
the catweasel is an expensive solution though, but it's main purpose is copying any disk from the amiga to the pc or vice versa.
for the controller you would need a standard pc-floppydrive.

taken from the seller's site:

"Sophisticated error correction algorithms enable you to read otherwise unreadable disks. In other words, you have an excellent chance to read your formally unreadable floppy disks."

it can also provide for using the controller with your amiga, with the same abilities, it's supposed to be up to 2.6x faster than standard amigafloppydrives and makes you able to use hd floppies with the amiga.
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Re: Best and easiest way to backup my amiga games
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2007, 09:28:32 AM »
thanks for the great reply there mate,

how easy is it to get hold of a copy of Syncro Express?because all i basically want to do is have another copy of my original game. so probably just copying them from a single floppy disk drive would be the best idea
is this the best program to use (the way i want), and do you know where i could get hold of a copy?

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Re: Best and easiest way to backup my amiga games
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2007, 10:17:07 AM »
Err... Syncro Express is hardware as well as software!

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Re: Best and easiest way to backup my amiga games
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2007, 11:07:51 AM »

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Err... Syncro Express is hardware as well as software!

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as you will see from my previous posts, i am new to this, hence the newbie questions, so thanks for the informative post!!!.....

anyway..

back to my question........

 

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Re: Best and easiest way to backup my amiga games
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2007, 12:03:56 PM »
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how easy is it to get hold of a copy of Syncro Express?


Difficult I should imagine, but I've sent you a PM with the e-mail address of someone who had one for sale quite recently :-)


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Re: Best and easiest way to backup my amiga games
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2007, 12:41:39 PM »
You could use the new EasyADF v1.6 for archiving Amiga disks

One of the new features is that you can make EasyADF into an AppIcon on the Workbench and you can simply drop LHA, LZX, ADF, ZIP files onto the icon.  They automatically uncompress.





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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2007, 03:53:39 PM »
Wanted:

Will pay good price for Synchro Express or other similar device that will duplicate copy protected Amiga disks, or convert them to ADF files.

Reply via PMail here.

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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2007, 04:56:09 PM »
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