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Re: PegasosIII should become the next high-end Amiga!
« Reply #14 from previous page: May 29, 2007, 04:00:35 AM »
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AROS is to Linux alike in thinking. I think that Amiga users are dedicated users. It means that they love to be a part of a community. AROS dosent create that community, it tries to open it and make the Amiga community as loose as the PC community.


AROS is in current active porting to EFIKA and x86_64 with a hope for ARM in the future.  EFIKA maybe a winner for Genesi, however I don't see Peg3 going anywhere.  If the desktop doesn't have bang:buck ratio of AMD64, you better have an amazing perk (like EFIKA) or show me a sub $500 notebook/subnotebook.  Othewise your just wasting people's time.

As far as AROS not having a community, don't tell the folks on AROS-Exec.org that.  Else they will mock you for not having a clue.

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Re: PegasosIII should become the next high-end Amiga!
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2007, 06:54:40 AM »
@Dammy

Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate all the stuff you guys are doing but as you say on your own website you are short of developers. And open source is more about communities than closed source IMHO.

But you're right about the closed source Amiga like OS's; they are not going anywhere either...

It all boils down to this; there are too few Amigans left in a market that is heavily divided.
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Re: PegasosIII should become the next high-end Amiga!
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2007, 01:28:44 PM »
@dammy

I selfishly wish that the AROS team wouldn't get side tracked with ports to EKIFA and other architectures (including x86_64 to some degree).  I would love to see them focus on x86 native and Linux hosted and develop in a way that it can be ported to x86_64 down the track when it is really required.

The time spent porting could be better spent writing and improving device drivers.  This would improve AROS's reach much more than creating ports to obscure platforms.

EFIKA may be a neat toy right now, but the fact is that PPC is going to be relevant only for embedded applications.  The same thing happened to other once great RISC architectures like MIPS and ARM.

Actually I don't really see the interest in EFIKA.  Aside than embedded applications (what it seems to have been designed for) the small form factor makes it neat as a media PC.  But with only 400MHz/760 MIPS it doesn't have enough power to handle standard-def MPEG4 content let alone hi-def formats.
 

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Re: PegasosIII should become the next high-end Amiga!
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2007, 03:50:19 PM »
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AROS is to Linux alike in thinking. I think that Amiga users are dedicated users. It means that they love to be a part of a community. AROS dosent create that community, it tries to open it and make the Amiga community as loose as the PC community.


No, they're creating a portable, open version of the AmigaOS3.9 API, enabling more people to use it.
 

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Re: PegasosIII should become the next high-end Amiga!
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2007, 03:51:00 PM »
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It runs on non-exotic hardware. It doesn't need to be bundled with oddball hardware, and anyone can participate in the development.


Then AROS clearly isn't aiming to be Amiga-like :-D


Lol!!! :) How very true.
 

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Re: PegasosIII should become the next high-end Amiga!
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2007, 04:52:47 PM »
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@dammy

I selfishly wish that the AROS team wouldn't get side tracked with ports to EKIFA and other architectures (including x86_64 to some degree).  I would love to see them focus on x86 native and Linux hosted and develop in a way that it can be ported to x86_64 down the track when it is really required.

The time spent porting could be better spent writing and improving device drivers.  This would improve AROS's reach much more than creating ports to obscure platforms.

Actually I don't really see the interest in EFIKA.  Aside than embedded applications (what it seems to have been designed for) the small form factor makes it neat as a media PC.  But with only 400MHz/760 MIPS it doesn't have enough power to handle standard-def MPEG4 content let alone hi-def formats.


you see, if i had the student loan i'm getting in a while right now, i _might_ havve bought an efika thing to run a webcam for my front door/use it instead of a mini-itx board for some pointless project like a hi-fi in a zx spectrum or something...tbh i'd still probably go for a mini-itx board...but since i don't have the loan yet, i've only got about 7 x86 boxes lying about ready to run stuff...i hate linux, i find it obtrusive and pointless when xp works perfectly well for me, so that's why it's never going to be installed on my machines any time soon. i'd install aros just for fun, but from the skim reading i've done, it doesn't have a proper web browser, built in streamlined uae support (i.e. double click an adf file to run it...) or a particularly nice installer...so bleh to running that...if it did, then i'd have it dual booting for whenever i wanted to play amiga games...
 

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Re: PegasosIII should become the next high-end Amiga!
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2007, 05:02:15 PM »
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Now amiga has no hardware and well peg has no OS.


What makes you thnk the Peg has no OS? There are plenty Linux distros avaialble and most important MorphOS runs on the Peg.
Unfortunately the PegII is outdated and discontinued. The PegIII is not likely to appear as end user product in the near future. But there is the Efika which is perfectly ssupported by MorphOS 2.0 and yet the Efika runs Linux.

There are OSes for Peg & Efika: Linux and MorphOS.

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Re: PegasosIII should become the next high-end Amiga!
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2007, 06:38:56 PM »
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There are OSes for Peg & Efika: Linux and MorphOS.



and which of those two can I download for the EFIKA *RIGHT NOW* ?
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Re: PegasosIII should become the next high-end Amiga!
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2007, 07:11:45 PM »
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