State of the Amiga, 2007

[Mallette]

I originally posted this in my request for help to preserve SimStation, my A4000 based simulation system.  However, I thought I'd bring it up as an independent thread as I remain interested in your thoughts.  There were few more dedicated Amigans than myself and I fought for a while to keep it alive.  However, as a professional trainer/developer I was forced to go with the flow.  Much of my success in the Windoze world has been related to my Amiga experience which lead me to expect much more that those with no experience with a true multi-tasking, stable OS with an advanced hardware architecture.  My query to you follows:

My brief survey of the remnants of the Amiga culture are rather confusing. On one side, it appears to have dried to a mere puddle with only the turtles, gators, and other diehard left. OTOH, Amiga, Inc. in late news seems to be poised to launch new hardware (how many times have I heard that since '96?). They also appear to be messing in their own very vulnerable bed with lawsuits. Then, MorphOS appears to be a partisan group at odds with the orthodox Amiga crowd, but with a solution that, at least on the surface, appears good and also would appear to advance the technology.

The above might be an analogy of the Middle East.

So, my friends, of what pursuasion are you?  Will ANYONE win?
Dave

[TjLaZer]

This horse has been beaten to death and is in a cemetary right now...

[pVC]

What is the win? I think that Amiga users will decrease as it's been for 10 years. Nothing stops that major trend. But OTOH, I feel like being on winning side as long as I can use Amigas for my daily computing and who could have thought it's still possible on 2007 And even have new operating systems and development. For me the biggest breath was the Pegasos and MorphOS. With them I can do things which I miss on my classic setup (which is still on active use too)... like cpu intensive things like movies I've tried to stay out of fights between "brothers" and enjoyed what we have. Things could be MUCH better, but they also could be MUCH worse

[Hodgkinson]

Die hard amigans?

I've only just been introduced to Amigas in the past two or so years (And im only 17 now...), missing out on all the good stuff in the '90s. Sigh.

Despite using PC's everywhere, and being a relative newbie, I enjoy tinkering and trying my best to put the Amiga hardware that I have accumulated to good use, as well as designing and building the odd extra interface or adaptor here and there.

Anyway, sorry about being off topic,
Regards, Hodgkinson.

[4pLaY]

There is only one last hope for the "Amiga" and has been for years and thats AROS (www.aros.org) at least in my opinon.

[Pertinax]

TjLaZer wrote:
This horse has been beaten to death and is in a cemetary right now...

And even the glue factory isn't interested...


Jason

[Doppie1200]

I've been employed in the industrie for some years now and I can tell you there is zero demand for Amiga. There is no gap to fill there is no problem that Amiga can solve. There are plenty Operating Systems that did not go astray the last couple of years and enjoy serious support. Amiga is hobbyism; learn to live with it.

Stop wasting time :horse:
Fire up your amiga and do where she's good at. Play SWOS or something....sheejs :shrug:.....

[guru-666]

the amiga is dead.  It's stilla fun hobby project but there will never be new amigas.  Amiga inc is a joke and morphOS is cool but nobody cares. (it's not as good as linux)

the fact of the matter is we have moved on.  Linux is where most of the amiga community ended up.  

linux =  evolution

amiga = history

windows = housewife

[amigakid]

Amiga will rise and destroy Macs and PCs by February of this year....wait that passed  :-D
The Amiga is kept alive by people who love this machine but know that chances of it becoming even a moderate contender ever again in the PC market (thats if and a big huge if A-Inc came out with something new)is Very slim to none.  It's a nice dream to be the computer that once again showed the world a new tech advancement and jumped to the top of the market, but alas it will more than likely never come to birth.  I tell you though I do love all my Amigas and will always treasure them and use them. :love:  :horse:

[Mallette]

To the "beaten to death" crowd:
I hear you, and apologize for bringing up painful things.  However, I am one of you in many ways and have missed much of this in the past years.  Just wanted a sample of feelings.  Thanks for sharing.

Erno:  Not sure that is entirely true about being able to do anything the Amiga could.  I've searched diligently for an animation software REMOTELY as capable as DPaint and the closest I've found is ProMotion, which is an attempt to replicate as much of DPaint as Windoze can muster.  Even then, it is only a rather poor substitute...though superior to any other solution I've seen.  

I rather doubt I'll use the Ami for much more than DPaint, unless I am introduced to other software of which I am unaware.  But that will be enough.  Having that perpective tool, color cycling (even with have to export as GIF, yuk) and the ability to rapidly move through hundreds of frames at will is something I look forward to.  I am in the process of implementing on-demand interactive training for over 2,000 crew members involved in drilling all over the world, and such capability for rapid prototyping is essential.  

Dave

[amigakid]

Granted yes there are things that only a Miggy can do like say  boot into PAL mode, allow you to change chipsets (OCS, ECS and AGA from the boot menu), actual true multi-tasking and being able to run without WB loading.  Not to mention be able to reach down and shut it off without worrying about going to the menu and going to shutdown and waiting 2 yrs for the computer to turn off.  The Miggy definatly is in a class all its own and unlike a PC doesnt waste its precious resources.  And oh yeah I love the Dpaint series, i have done tons of anims on it.

[stopthegop]

Granted yes there are things that only a Miggy can do like say boot into PAL mode, allow you to change chipsets (OCS, ECS and AGA from the boot menu), actual true multi-tasking and being able to run without WB loading. Not to mention be able to reach down and shut it off without worrying about going to the menu and going to shutdown and waiting 2 yrs for the computer to turn off. The Miggy definatly is in a class all its own and unlike a PC doesnt waste its precious resources. And oh yeah I love the Dpaint series, i have done tons of anims on it.

Amigas have value.  PCs are just next year's garbage.

[Doppie1200]

These days I use photoshop and I never looked back at Dpaint. Personal preference I guess. But really the amiga has no technology to offer anymore.

As for drilling? You mean oil drilling? I've seen a pretty impresive training tool for oil platform workers. But it is based on the playstation.

[Mallette]

stopthegap:
HOW TRUE!  I hate to think how many peecees I've spent thousands on over the past 15 years only to wind up in the garage.  I through out probably 10 last summer when I moved and the remains of many more...

Disgoosting...

[utri007]

State of amiga ? I ques is somewhre in America ?? United States of America, one of those states is state of amiga