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Offline kd4pbsTopic starter

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invalid resident library
« on: May 19, 2007, 04:38:59 AM »
Hello, Amiga community.  After selling my A4000/Warp'040/emplant back in 1994 for $450 more than I payed for it brand new, I've finally come across a nice A4000T (I think it's an Amiga Technologies 4000T from what I can determine) that was given to me.  It's got 3.1 ROMs in it, and what appears to be a stock 68060-50MHz processor card with 32MB or so of memory on it.  Did they put these into the 4000T from the factory?  Anyway... on to the point...
The HD was pretty well toast when I got it.  Lots of disk errors while trying to boot Workbench 3.1, and finally it seems to have died altogether (the HD).  So, I dragged out my old WB3.1 install disks (I had .adf images of them stored on CD), made up new disks in my buddy's 3000, and went to boot them on up to set up this new beast from scratch.  Well, when booting the workbench disk (or even the install disk), I get a blank workbench screen.  Commenting out the endcli command in startup-sequence yields me an error that is something like "invalid resident library".  Funny, I don't remember this ever happening before.  
Checking the machine, I definitely have 3.1 ROMs in the machine (at least that's what they're marked, and that's what the "feed me a disk" screen reads).
I've googled "invalid resident library" and found no pertinent info towards my problem.  Most of the issues with this error seem to be centered around attempting to install 3.9 with 3.0 roms.  Unfortunately, WB3.1 is all I have, and I'm not even sure anything above this will work with the toaster and flyer that are in this machine.
Oh, and I did remove the toaster and flyer boards to make sure there are no strange things going on from them.
Do you need some pics of the processor board?  I can snap a few & post 'em if ya need 'em.
Thanks, and 73 from the land of the SAS-C compiler (RTP area, NC, USA)
 

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Re: invalid resident library
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2007, 04:46:10 AM »
The 3.1 ROMs for the 4000T have workbench.library removed from them to make room for the drivver for the SCSI controller - that's why Workbench won't load. 4000Ts originally shipped with special install disks that copied a software version of workbench.library to disk.

So you basically need to get workbench.library into your LIBS: directory. If your friend's 3000 has 3.1 ROMs, you can use a tool called RomSplit (made by Doobrey here at AO) to pull workbench.library and then copy it over.
 

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Re: invalid resident library
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2007, 06:14:20 AM »
@kd4pbs

If your friend has an OS 3.9 cd you could pull the workbench.library from that and put it in the libs directory. The other problem you will probably have is with the 060 card, which will possibly GURU on you since some but not all (I think) require that you install the 060 libraries from an install disk first before putting the 060 board in meaning it needs to be done with an 040 board. I am not sure of your 060 board but here is a link which has software for the Phase5 and DCE LINK
Anyhow good luck and what a great find!!!
 

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Re: invalid resident library
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2007, 08:04:19 AM »
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amesie2 wrote:

The other problem you will probably have is with the 060 card, which will possibly GURU on you since some but not all (I think) require that you install the 060 libraries from an install disk first before putting the 060 board in meaning it needs to be done with an 040 board. I am not sure of your 060 board but here is a link which has software for the Phase5 and DCE LINK


You actually don't need to install the 060 libs before plugging in the 060 card, mostly you just have to install the libs from CLI/Shell before you load up Workbench. Obviously this requires to have the 060 libraries at hand in the first place.
 

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Re: invalid resident library
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2007, 04:24:38 PM »
That's a good point on the 060 libs. But I'm guessing that the original poster has one of these boards. Will the phase5 libs work with it?
 

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Re: invalid resident library
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2007, 04:47:25 PM »
Well, that 'splains things then.  My friend has 2.0 or so ROMs in his 3000, so I guess that is out of the question.  I might be able to track down this library online, I guess.  Or, another choice is running my WinUAE, I think I have a valid 3.1 ROM in it, and could run RomSplit on it. Are these old 4000T install disks freely distributable?  Is there any versions of roms for this computer made after 3.1 that are legal to obtain freely?  I do have a ROM burner and plenty of spare UVEPROMS to put something else in here.  If not, I wouldn't mind purchasing the roms and OS upgrade, but I don't want to ploink down any cash unless I know for sure this computer will run properly first.  Heck, I don't even have the install disks for the flyer, so that's something else I need to source.  I don't want to spend too much on this thing; after all, it is a 13 year old computer.  I've junked many more powerful ones in the time it's been alive.

Yes, that is the flavor '060 board in this Amiga.  Mine is a REV.3 board, if that matters.

Thanks, and let me know where I should go from here.  I used to be quite savvy with the Amiga - I've even done my share of programming on it using AMOS.  In fact, my Amiga knowledge got me a job many moons ago, but now I feel like a complete newbie on this thing; I've done a bulk dump of my memory banks with all my Amiga knowledge over the years, and it's taking a while to retrieve that knowledge from tape storage.
 

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Re: invalid resident library
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2007, 06:40:19 AM »
Well, allrighty!  That took care of me!  I was able to extract the correct workbench.library (at least one that works anyhow) out of WinUAE, and get WB3.1 set up on the 4000T.  I've got AmiBack tools doing a 911 recover on the old hard drive, so I'll see how much that can get for me of the toaster stuff.  Thanks so much for giving me the route to take - I'd be more lost without the help!  Man, that was a convoluted problem, too.  I would have ended up Ebaying this machine or something, but now I have a nice working system that should only get better.
Oh, and for the record, the board did guru after installing workbench on the hard drive, but I spotted that reason immediately.  It's a good thing I was watching the install process, because the script ended up installing the 68040.library, and that is what was making it guru.  I booted with the floppy, removed 68040.library, and all is well with the machine.  I did install a 68060.library, but I'm not sure if it's the best version I should be using.
So, what's the current OS version?  Who owns it now?  Still Gateway?
Thanks, from just another (humbled and greatful) Matt H.
 

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Re: invalid resident library
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2007, 10:37:27 PM »
@kd4pbs

Glad to hear you have your system running!! I did find a link to some QuikPak 4060 drivers if that is the card you have there is also a manual too I think.

QuikPak 4060 Drivers

Hope this helps
 

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Re: invalid resident library
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2007, 04:25:26 AM »
Thanks, amesie2!  Yes - that's the exact board I have.  I'll check that site out in more depth, and see what it holds.  
So, other than ebay, does anyone have any flyer/toaster software they care to part with?  I found my old toaster 4.1 software, but this was for the non-flyer version of the hardware, and I'd really like to get the flyer working at least for the sake of saying that I did it.  I doubt that I'd be doing any editing on it, since I've switched to HDV format a year and some change ago, but it would be neat to revive this old system and do some old-school non-linear editing on it... I've never had the chance to play with a flyer before.
 

Offline Matt_H

Re: invalid resident library
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2007, 06:44:14 AM »
@ kd4pbs

Congrats on getting operational. Hope you enjoy your new system.

I too have recently tried to get into Toaster/Flyer editing (though I think my Flyer needs repairing). The software turns up on eBay pretty frequently, so you can probably get it from there.