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Re: WHEN WILL "AMIGA" FIX THE VIDEO PROBLEM !
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2007, 07:23:24 PM »
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Except that analogue video editing is pretty much dead these days...

As soon as the video enters the Amiga it is digital. Analogue video if transfered using a good quality cable loses very little and looks very good dumped to DVD. Remember that The Toaster is D2 quality.
 

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Re: WHEN WILL "AMIGA" FIX THE VIDEO PROBLEM !
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2007, 08:16:42 PM »
This has to be one of the most bizzare threads ever. :-?  :-?
 

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Re: WHEN WILL "AMIGA" FIX THE VIDEO PROBLEM !
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2007, 09:24:15 PM »
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There is no way we can move into the future before somebody who claims they own the Amiga fixes the video problem.  What problem? No MODERN MONITORS WORK WITH THE EXISTING MACHINES.


Just buy an A3000. It'll work with your average PC monitor.

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Re: WHEN WILL "AMIGA" FIX THE VIDEO PROBLEM !
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2007, 09:53:10 PM »
True, but with today's market leaning towards DV and HDV it's kinda hard to keep up on the Toaster.
 

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Re: WHEN WILL "AMIGA" FIX THE VIDEO PROBLEM !
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2007, 11:15:51 PM »
"kind hard"  how about imposible... nobody is even attempting this!
 

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Re: WHEN WILL "AMIGA" FIX THE VIDEO PROBLEM !
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2007, 11:39:42 PM »
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Since about 2000, I recognised the fact that electrically, Y-Pb-Pr and analog RGB are just about the same thing except, Y-Pb-Pr conveys the red and blue channel in a differential manner.

I was going to ask you why you'd bother until I saw you were American, and therefore had no RGB on your TV.

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Once that's done, your Amiga has the same type of output as the average DVD player and then all that's needed is a flat panel TV to get rid of the flicker and you can probably buy that at the corner store by now.

No, you won't get rid of the flicker.
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« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2007, 02:48:04 AM »
as i said earlyer....

the one that make an hw solution for the problem, and sell to others, will make millions of dollars!.....

but all is sitting on their ass whining and hoping other will do it for them.... today there are to much users and to few geeks in the amiga community..




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Re: WHEN WILL "AMIGA" FIX THE VIDEO PROBLEM !
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2007, 03:01:03 AM »
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This has to be one of the most bizzare threads ever. :-?  :-?


Yeah, what tha...?


"When will Ford fix my model-T's fuel efficiency problems!?!"

We should petition the oil companies...

...or something...

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Re: WHEN WILL "AMIGA" FIX THE VIDEO PROBLEM !
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2007, 04:44:16 AM »
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eslapion wrote:
Since about 2000, I recognised the fact that electrically, Y-Pb-Pr and analog RGB are just about the same thing except, Y-Pb-Pr conveys the red and blue channel in a differential manner.

I was going to ask you why you'd bother until I saw you were American, and therefore had no RGB on your TV.

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Once that's done, your Amiga has the same type of output as the average DVD player and then all that's needed is a flat panel TV to get rid of the flicker and you can probably buy that at the corner store by now.

No, you won't get rid of the flicker.



Not just any LCD, but theoretically, a decent quality LCD-TV (with a line doubler) should handle the flicker.

 

 

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Re: WHEN WILL "AMIGA" FIX THE VIDEO PROBLEM !
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2007, 09:33:08 AM »
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No, you won't get rid of the flicker.


Have you ever seen flicker on a flat panel TV??

If you have then you have managed to find a VERY special kind of TV... unlike any I have ever seen...

As far as I can tell, any and all flat panel TVs completely eliminate flicker.

Flicker is caused by the scanning of the electron beam in a CRT. There is no such thing in a TFT panel.

 

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Re: WHEN WILL "AMIGA" FIX THE VIDEO PROBLEM !
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2007, 09:46:04 AM »
Notice how the creator of this thread has not replied.

Troll, Troll, Troll, Troll... :)
 

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Re: WHEN WILL "AMIGA" FIX THE VIDEO PROBLEM !
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2007, 11:19:35 AM »
well im not gonna respond on a topic that leads to nowhere
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Re: WHEN WILL "AMIGA" FIX THE VIDEO PROBLEM !
« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2007, 11:48:47 AM »
yay for dutch expressions

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Re: WHEN WILL "AMIGA" FIX THE VIDEO PROBLEM !
« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2007, 12:11:11 PM »
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There is no way we can move into the future before somebody who claims they own the Amiga fixes the video problem.  What problem? No MODERN MONITORS WORK WITH THE EXISTING MACHINES.

Novel at the time. Have the machines work with television sets. It is 2007 we need to have Amiga solve this problem.  Commission a company to either engineer a new video chip with XVGA output or have someone build a proper flicker fixer/scan doubler.  We as an amiga community should not have to be wiring hacks of scart, VGA adapters, etc just to see our display.  TV was a bad idea, NOW FIX IT!


a.) why does the person who owns the amiga have to fix the problem?
b.) you really think that we'll "move into the future" as soon as scandoublers are available cheaply? yes, suddenly you can buy a $15 scandoubler, and NOS will selling like crazy
 

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Re: WHEN WILL "AMIGA" FIX THE VIDEO PROBLEM !
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2007, 12:16:53 PM »
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yes, you can buy a $15 scandoubler, and NOS will selling like crazy

You CAN get a $15 scandoubler, but they are 16-bit. Great for OCS, sucks for AGA.
 

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Re: WHEN WILL "AMIGA" FIX THE VIDEO PROBLEM !
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 18, 2007, 03:03:46 PM »
my 3000 works perfectly with every monitor ive ever connected it to. big reason i got it in fact. even with a 15khz monitor i dont like other amigas video. except the 1000 and 1200 on composite
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