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Offline derringer3

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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2007, 09:55:07 PM »
I wish it was true, but today with a fast hard drive and fast memory, you don't get any benefits with any roms. It's about Speed issues. If you want fast machine you already use a program that copies your rom's data into your miggy's fastmem.

Anyway here is a link:

http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/kickstart35.html
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2007, 10:22:52 PM »
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Yes I used Doobrey's ROMSplit to split apart the 3.1 ROM and the 3.9 ROM Update and then Remus to combine it back in to one ROM. I then burned used WinHex to split the image in to two chunks (one for each chip) and some other modifications and then burned the files to the chips. Check back over my old posts if you want to do it - I did post the detail of the process at one point.

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Hello Moto. (ahah, I always want to say that! Sorry)

 Can u make a tutorial or even put the two final images to other ppl who want to make their own ROMs?

 Ok, maybe it offends the copyrights. Just a try.

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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2007, 11:43:19 PM »
@motorollin

I agree, if you can, do a tutorial! and what hardware is needed, eg. chip types. Adding in newer libraries to essentially a startup sequence that would get loaded anyway by a re-boot can't be against copyrights, esp if you own the ROMS to begin with. It would be like making a copy of the AMIGA OS 3.9 CD, including some new libraries and using that to re-install instead of your original one. It's just a backup from a ROM chip instead of a CD. Like a USB stick would be.

Please make a full step tutorial. If in doubt, could always ask AMIGA if it's ok to do it if you OWN the ROM in the first place. Pretty sure you're allowed to make a copy if you own it. Not sure about the adding in library bit...who knows I see no harm, beats having to re-boot.
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2007, 07:51:16 AM »
Irrespective of 3.5 or 3.9 ROM being fake, the 4000D  using 3.1 Rom is Rev 40.68.
The A4000T uses 3.1 Rom, but version 40.70 as this includes the on-board SCSI, which was only available on the A4000T.
40.68 Roms work in an A4000T mobo, but this makes the SCSI non-functional.
IDE should never have been used on the Amiga; Just too much CPU usage! :pissed:
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2007, 02:06:11 PM »
@Kin-Hell

 There's no relationship between the kickstart version and the machine it's made for.
eg. There was a 40.70 for the A4000D, but it had problems with scsi.device when used with some CPU cards, so they dropped back to 40.68

IIRC, there was a similar situation with the A3000 too.
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2007, 02:44:06 PM »
Last time AMIGA Inc. heard of someone making his own 3.9 ROM they send their lawyers. They do not want to sell 3.9 ROMS to you, but they sue you if you make your own ROM/tell others how to do it.
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2007, 02:52:51 PM »
Thats a load of crap. They cant do anything to you for using tools and files that are free to amiga owners. If you take YOUR rom and YOUR Boing Bag files to make it and dont download an image because you dont own a 3.1 ROM then that is diffrent.
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2007, 03:44:52 PM »
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Last time AMIGA Inc. heard of someone making his own 3.9 ROM they send their lawyers.

It was a bogus DMCA claim. Basically if it would have been someone with enough balls (or money I guess), they could have sued Amiga Inc for it.

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but they sue you if you make your own ROM/tell others how to do it.

It's nonsense really, they can't tell you what you can or can't do with the KS ROM you own. I should know, being BlizKick author and all. I've never heard a beep from Amiga Inc.

BlizKick is in aminet, and I see no reason why romus tools couldn't be aswell.
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2007, 05:36:36 PM »
See Amiga is a hobby and if some company sends you a not so nice letter via Reedsmith because you made a Video where it seems that an A1k is showing OS3.9 boot screen. You probably will not fight it out to all extent.

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With regard to the issue that you are talking about, we were notified by third parties that someone had manipulated and altered the ROM’s. This is a violation of our IP and they were notified. We have since been told that it was not true and nothing was really done, that it was a manipulated video, not actual code that was changed.


Look at number eight...

Maybe (surely?) Bill's claim is crap, but will you mess with Reedsmith for your hobby? Just announce that you make a step by step guide for creating a 3.9 ROM out of your original 3.1 ROM and the BB2 RomUpdate of your legally purchased OS3.9 CD and fight it out, if you have the balls (or money). :-P

I don't say that it is illegal, but AMIGA Inc. thinks it is and they (maybe) will come after you as they already have with others.  
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2007, 06:02:24 PM »
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Some archive even has my name tagged to such file. I have absolutely NOTHING to do with it, nor does it make the file any more genuine

Maybe it has your ExecSG incorporated as it is (writing out of head) a little bit smaller than original Exec, leaving more room for other updated libs ...
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2007, 06:10:14 PM »
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Maybe it has your ExecSG incorporated

It doesn't.
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2007, 06:14:20 PM »
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With regard to the issue that you are talking about, we were notified by third parties that someone had manipulated and altered the ROM's. This is a violation of our IP and they were notified

Well, even if the ROM was changed, it's none of Amiga Inc's business.

Oh, and BlizKick has done this for a decade now, where is my DMCA takedown notice or the lawsuits against me? (Included is a a tool that can apply the modules to ROM and create a new one, this can be used with BlizKick itself, or burned to EPROM for example)

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I don't say that it is illegal, but AMIGA Inc. thinks it is and they (maybe) will come after you as they already have with others.

I can't wait.
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2007, 06:53:10 PM »
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Oh, and BlizKick has done this for a decade now, where is my DMCA takedown notice or the lawsuits against me? (Included is a a tool that can apply the modules to ROM and create a new one, this can be used with BlizKick itself, or burned to EPROM for example)


I don't say that BlizKick/Remus/ROMSplit are illegal and i'm not AInc's or someone elses lawyer, i only tell you what has happened at least one time, that's all. Maybe in their view the tool is not illegal, using it for altering their code is. -> Ask AInc.

Taking a weapon with you is not always illegal, shooting someone with it will be most of the time -> Bad analogy but i hope you get what i mean.

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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2007, 07:14:26 PM »
Well yeah. Still doesn't explain why Amiga Inc took down some *video* showing the AmigaOS 3.9 ROM on A1000. Amiga Inc had absolutely NO rights whatsoever to the video, the author recording it had all the copyrights.

Speaking of interesting tools, here's one
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2007, 07:21:50 PM »
The video was taken down by the author because of causing trouble with AInc/Reedsmith because they thought the author had really manipulated their ROM's/Kickstart Disk - infringing their copyright in their POV.
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 26, 2007, 07:31:35 PM »
Ohwell. I would have contested that view and kept the video up.

Since after all, the video itself isn't infringing in any way.
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