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Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« on: May 16, 2007, 01:48:29 PM »
??!! Saw this Kick... Does this version has any advantages ?
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2007, 01:53:41 PM »
I'm pretty sure it's a fake, version 3.1 altered to show 3.5. The only versions higher than 3.1 that I know of were the betas used with the Walker, ect.

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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2007, 01:54:01 PM »
It has any advantages of OS3.5 without the need for Setpatch to reboot the machine when it softkicks the updates (because they are contained in the ROM).

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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2007, 01:55:26 PM »
@Jeff
It's not necessarily fake. It is entirely possible to incorporate the OS3.5/OS3.9 ROM Updates in to a 3.1 kickstart image to make a version 3.5/3.9 kickstart. The version number will even change on the purple "boot" screen if you have no hard drive plugged in and no floppy in the drive. I did this with my A1200 and burned the resulting image to EPROMs.

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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2007, 01:56:11 PM »
I think the latest official version was 3.1,
its either a fake or maybe 3.1 with some builtin patches
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2007, 01:58:56 PM »
@motorollin

Yes, and I would like to do that. I have all the stuff I think.  Are you using Doobrey's tools?

I was just assuming the OP was refering to the fake 3.5 that has been floating around on the net forever.

Thanks for clearing it up.

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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2007, 02:01:11 PM »
it is common knowledge that os3.5 and 3.9 patch the kickstart and update it to 3.5 or 3.9 ... so this is no fake. if you have an algor/kickflash/eflash you can store those patches in their boot rom and have the 3.5/3.9 kickstart on 1st boot... or u can do what motorolin said.
any amiga with OS3.5 or OS3.9 will report it has 3.5/3.9 kickstart.
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2007, 02:12:15 PM »
@Jeff
Yes I used Doobrey's ROMSplit to split apart the 3.1 ROM and the 3.9 ROM Update and then Remus to combine it back in to one ROM. I then burned used WinHex to split the image in to two chunks (one for each chip) and some other modifications and then burned the files to the chips. Check back over my old posts if you want to do it - I did post the detail of the process at one point.

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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
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50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2007, 02:57:20 PM »
Just tested the thingy... It runs ok... So guess Motorollin is right *Smile*

I'll keep it ...
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2007, 03:24:38 PM »
KS 40.69 is no real OS 3.5 ROM (real as including the OS 3.5 ROM Updates).

It's a ROM with rompatches and some other BlizKick modules applied and the version field poked in manually.

Some archive even has my name tagged to such file. I have absolutely NOTHING to do with it, nor does it make the file any more genuine.

KS 40.71 (attributed to Amiga Technologies) is a fake. The file started circulating well before Doobrey's tools were developed.

If you want "real" 3.5 ROM you'll have to use Doobrey's tools yourself.
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2007, 07:24:03 PM »
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KS 40.71 (attributed to Amiga Technologies) is a fake.


Yup, that fake 40.71 is a slightly hacked 40.70 A4000(D) ROM.
Nothing more than a few changes to some strings, and a version bump.
 
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2007, 07:32:25 PM »
I don't think this ROM is a fake, it's more like an unsupported prototype that someone did long ago around the time of OS 3.5 that incorporates certain library updates including cybergfx. I think this was put together for a technology demo of prototype hardware that was never release (that amiga that looked like a toaster box I believe).

If you want the real story on it, load it up and start looking at the libraries that are resident with it. It's quite interesting from that perspective.

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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2007, 07:36:01 PM »
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2007, 07:41:47 PM »
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 I think this was put together for a technology demo of prototype hardware that was never release (that amiga that looked like a toaster box I believe).

If you want the real story on it, load it up and start looking at the libraries that are resident with it. It's quite interesting from that perspective.


Are you thinking of the v43 ROMs that were in the Walker prototypes?
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Re: Kickrom 3.5 rev.40.71
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2007, 09:55:07 PM »
I wish it was true, but today with a fast hard drive and fast memory, you don't get any benefits with any roms. It's about Speed issues. If you want fast machine you already use a program that copies your rom's data into your miggy's fastmem.

Anyway here is a link:

http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/kickstart35.html
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