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Re: Here's the first specs for the new Amiga from Amiga Inc.
« Reply #89 from previous page: May 01, 2007, 08:45:16 AM »
Actual laserprinters got faster CPU nowadays....
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Re: Here's the first specs for the new Amiga from Amiga Inc.
« Reply #90 on: May 01, 2007, 08:52:49 AM »
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Tahoe wrote:
Man, why is everybody so quick to jump the gun and dismiss this machine.
Why not just wait and see what happens?

All of you fools have fallen for the Mhz trap, you need higher specs machine etc etc blah blah. Come on. Wait and see it run first.


But it's 2007... not 1997! This is no Mhz trap, it simple fact that people don't want to pay for old tech.

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IF this ever gets released, and if it will run any type of AmigaOS I will buy one. Come on, 400Mhz is waaaay enough to run a lean-mean OS. Sure, not Vista, OSX or whatever, but if I want to run any of those I'll buy a wintel machine.


So you are prepared to pay large sums of money just to run an OS... not a killer app, or some vital piece of software that you depend upon... just an OS... AmigaOS isn't lean-mean... it's just simple.

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First I'll wait to see if anything gets shipped, ifso which OS included.


If...

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The CPU is likely to be 68000 series compatible; right?


No... there are no 68K compatible CPU's the Coldfire comes close, but it's not. the 68k is EOL...

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That means it's likely to run OS3.9 or AmigaDE or whatever it was called.


Err... no and no.

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Or maybe AmigaDE=OS5 ?!


Cough...

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Re: Here's the first specs for the new Amiga from Amiga Inc.
« Reply #91 on: May 01, 2007, 09:08:58 AM »
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Only 1GB RAM? Not enough these days.


And just what OS do you plan to run on the new hardware that would make 1GB not enough?



Reread the entire thread, and you will see what I might use the machine for...
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Re: Here's the first specs for the new Amiga from Amiga Inc.
« Reply #92 on: May 01, 2007, 09:11:18 AM »
Personally I think its a good price and a nice little low-end machine. All you guys complaining about speed dont forget the highend specs have not been realeased yet.
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Re: Here's the first specs for the new Amiga from Amiga Inc.
« Reply #93 on: May 01, 2007, 09:16:29 AM »
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Before there weren't any hardware for AmigaOS 4 and you whined, now there most probably will be hardware for AmigaOS 4, but you still whine. Most of the same whiners said that AmigaOS 4 isn't going to be developed any further anyhow, so why would you care in which hands is it, when you can finally have it? Or just finding new excuses?

It's simple, there's MorphOS, there's AROS, Amiga path is secured, why to whine for?


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Re: Here's the first specs for the new Amiga from Amiga Inc.
« Reply #94 on: May 01, 2007, 09:41:55 AM »
there is no agp slot? or thoso new pci slots?

where will we find a pci graphics card?
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Re: Here's the first specs for the new Amiga from Amiga Inc.
« Reply #95 on: May 01, 2007, 09:48:07 AM »
Just out of pure curiosity, if I was to buy a complete PC (excluding monitor) for the same price how fast would the emulated Amiga  in UAE be in comparison to this system?

Just thinking aloud here, but if the speeds of native code on the ACK board and emulated code on a low cost PC are comparable then wouldn't people be better off with the PC as they'd get full Amiga compatibility?  IIRC Amithlon was doing 400MHz speeds in 2001, surely UAE would be able to do the same 6 years later?

I haven't been in the market for a PC since 2000 or so and i haven't used UAE in rather a long time so I really am totally clueless about all of this.
 

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Re: Here's the first specs for the new Amiga from Amiga Inc.
« Reply #96 on: May 01, 2007, 09:48:38 AM »
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With these specs, I might as well go dumpster diving and pull out a 1GHz thunderbird for free and install windows 95. That sucker would fly, and I'd get the memory protection and a descent web browser unlike what doesn't exist on AOS4, and all for free.

500 dollars for a 400MHz machine, no thanks. For 100 dollars more I can get a mac mini, which would freaking blow it out of the water.


or you could get a mac-mini, and put it into something cool...like...an amiga case


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The price is just right too, I mean come on!  Under $500 for a new machine?  The Amiga 500 cost more in 1987!



yes great, but for just $400 you could build a faster machine with more functionality. there's just really no point in going down this road

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Actual laserprinters got faster CPU nowadays....


heh, unfortunately my hp laserjet only has 400MHz...and 16mb of ram...oh well (maybe i could get os4 onto it...)
 

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Re: Here's the first specs for the new Amiga from Amiga Inc.
« Reply #97 on: May 01, 2007, 09:51:31 AM »
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Tahoe wrote:

Why not just wait and see what happens?


Now have I heard this before....?
 

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« Reply #98 on: May 01, 2007, 09:59:31 AM »
Read this thread and then ask yourselves why Amiga Inc. may possibly not care about the Amigans.

Honestly - look at it. Go on. Read the thread.
Back yet?

Look at the whining. The moaning. The carping. It's PATHETIC.

"This machine is $500 and it doesn't even come with any RAM". OF COURSE it doesn't! It's basic supply and demand Demand is FAR lower than for a PC, hence supply must be lower. Supply is lower, so economies of scale don't apply in anywhere near the same amount as a PC motherboard. In what kind of dreamworld could an Amiga exist at the same or even close price point as a modern PC?

"This machine is only 400MHz! My phone is more powerful!" - that's complete nonsense, there's a WORLD of difference between a 400MHz platform like this and a 400MHz phone, go check out the hardware designs before throwing such nonsense around.

"400MHz is ridiculously slow compared to 4GHz x86" - well spotted, Sherlock. Point is that you don't NEED a super fast CPU to run AmigaOS. It'll take a long time before the Amiga catches up with PCs in CPU speed because we don't NEED to - we have a fast, efficient OS, unlike the Vista dog.  We don't have the software that needs such a fast CPU anyway (there's no 3DS Max or anything) and 400MHz is plenty fast enough to run AmigaOS and a large number of apps. And this is for a low end machine. If you want faster, you get faster when it comes out.

"1GB memory isn't enough for me!" - unless you're doing large graphics manipulation or video processing, you don't need it. I don't think I've come close to using my 512MB on my AmigaOne. And if you do do large graphics or videos, then you're going to use a Mac or PC anyway because those are the platforms with the software like Photoshop.

People seem to think this is an Amiga to compete with PCs. It's not. It's an Amiga to get people using AmigaOS again, to rebuild the userbase. To get people developing. To get numbers up.
Once enough people are using it, then we can worry about getting it up to the specs PCs have, but until then there's NO POINT. 99.9% of computer users will continue to use the Macs or PCs they already own anyway, no matter what hardware you throw at AmigaOS.


Looking at this thread I can see why Amiga Inc may want to write off the classic Amiga users as they, given what they've been reduced to. I wouldn't bother, that's for sure.

Oh, and to all those people complaing about Amiga Inc being Scumbags or whatever because of this court action, have you actually bothered to read why it's come to this? Checked out all the facts on both sides? You think Amiga Inc didn't think about what they were doing and realise the fall-out that would happen?

OK, rant over.  Now come on guys, get together and do something constructive. SUPPORT the Amiga system that we all want to succeed. HELP each other, stop knocking each back all the time.

You don't like the new Amiga? Fine. Go somewhere else. Buy something else, whatever. You do like the new Amiga? Good, welcome on board. Simple as that.

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Re: Here's the first specs for the new Amiga from Amiga Inc.
« Reply #99 on: May 01, 2007, 10:08:55 AM »
@Spirantho

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Oh, and to all those people complaing about Amiga Inc being Scumbags or whatever because of this court action, have you actually bothered to read why it's come to this? Checked out all the facts on both sides?


There hasn't been any statement or reply from Hyperion yet. Please do tell me how you could have checked out all the facts on _both_ sides.

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You do like the new Amiga? Good, welcome on board.


On board of what? The next train to vapourland? Some of you guys never learn.
 

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Re: Here's the first specs for the new Amiga from Amiga Inc.
« Reply #100 on: May 01, 2007, 10:26:43 AM »
hehe yeah, vapourland! Pleae open your eyes peopl!!
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Re: Here's the first specs for the new Amiga from Amiga Inc.
« Reply #101 on: May 01, 2007, 10:45:39 AM »
pci video card?????????????????????????????
no ide port ??????????????????????


I'd like to see a standard Amiga, not an anonymous  motherboard!!!!!!!!!!

I'd like to see a good case, good keyboard, good mouse branded.



Only with a standard Amiga brand computer, software companies can start porting software from Pc to Amiga, like Mozilla Firefox or Open Office.

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Re: Here's the first specs for the new Amiga from Amiga Inc.
« Reply #102 on: May 01, 2007, 11:02:32 AM »
I think @spirantho has some good points, and I share the views.

In my mind, if a new Amiga branded computer gets avaiable for a low price, people in my generation that used to have an amiga and only have good memories about it, will get one just to see what the fuzz is about. If the price is low enought.
The new amiga is even mentioned in the mainstream IT-news here in norway, thats how strong the name still is out there.

Low end machine = lower price = posibillity of larger user base (of geeks) = more applications = new machines.

But then again, I doubt it will ever be released together with os4...

If they blew it this time, the amiga brand will end up just like commodore.
 

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Re: Here's the first specs for the new Amiga from Amiga Inc.
« Reply #103 on: May 01, 2007, 11:25:15 AM »
I think i will choose morph os in future seems pretty clear that there will be long before we see os4 on any hardware .. I have lost totally interest in the new "AMIGA" One " hardware though .. :lol:

EDIT : I guess this will be good for the blue camp as they may recive alot of new interest , If they deliver new hardware and the latest os soon..
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Re: Here's the first specs for the new Amiga from Amiga Inc.
« Reply #104 on: May 01, 2007, 11:35:47 AM »
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In my mind, if a new Amiga branded computer gets avaiable for a low price, people in my generation that used to have an amiga and only have good memories about it, will get one just to see what the fuzz is about.


...and will be extremely disappointed to find out that it "doesn't run all the good old games". Even E-UAE will be much too slow on it.

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But then again, I doubt it will ever be released together with os4...


And even _if_ it will be released with OS4, but kind of future is there for AmigaOS?