Here's the first specs for the new Amiga from Amiga Inc.

[Damion]

Yeah but come on guys... OS5 is so sweet it would probably *smoke* on an '030... let alone 500 MHz :p

[dammy]

Those specs are fine for OS 4.0, no need for a 3GHz duo core or 4GHz P4 for it!

OS4 is pretty dead, perhaps OS5.  True, you do not need a modern x86/x86_64 to run any of the Amiga like OSs out there.  Problem is paying for high end x86_64 and not getting much of anything for your money.  Now if they can get a mobo and OS for way under $200, then they may have something. However, if they continue as is, it's not going to fly.

Dammy  

[TjLaZer]

Well lets see.  If Amiga pulls this off (and I have a feeling they will as they are under new money) this will be great.  I would rather have a non wintel crap crate that runs at 600MHz than a P4 @ 4GHz running an Amiga OS.  The price is just right too, I mean come on!  Under $500 for a new machine?  The Amiga 500 cost more in 1987!

[TheMagicM]

pass me some of what he's smoking.  lol

[countzero]

Hello people,

I hate to give you the news but the only reason AInc is pretending to be releasing hardware right now is to strenghten their position in their recent lawsuit with Hyperion.

see clause # 33 at the document

It prevents Amiga from entering the market for OS4.0. The first to market advantage is important in any business pursuit but particularly critical in the technology space...

a loss that is difficult, if not possible to compensate with money damages alone, and irreperable (mispell here)

They pretend like they're going to enter the market but oh oh ! baddies hyperion has already signed a deal with acube ! They lost all their first to market advantage ! Advantage my ass, where were you the last 4 years lame ass ?

This lawsuit was filed on 26 april 2007 .
amiga.com announcement comes at 22 april 2007 .

Doesn't that tell something to you ? Not that it's meaninglessly underspec, it's DEFINITELY VAPOR as well ! wake up guys !

[HammerD]

meega wrote:

drHirudo wrote:

meega wrote:
Only 1GB RAM? Not enough these days.

Cool, the "Slam and trash it" team is already here!

My AmigaOne works great with 256 MB, sometimes when compiling stuff with best opimisation I run out of memory, but that's very rare. On the other hand my A4000 works great with 18 MB RAM, and it's enough these days for classic Amiging.

Shall we work down the rest of the spec to see why a lot of (possibly most) people would regard this as an under-equipped machine for the modern era?

Yes, the "classic" Amiga worked very well with its resources, but every single one really needed expansion to do "serious" work. Only 1 (ONE) slot for only 1 (ONE) gigabyte is not enough to compete in the 21st century.

In my opinion.

Have you ever actually used OS4? I am running it on 256MB of RAM and it is totally fine and I really even have no desire to upgrade that, even to 512MB.  For AmigaOS4 1GB is certainly MORE THAN enough.  With sound, SATA, and ethernet on-board, you still have two free PCI slots remaining (assuming one is taken up by graphics).  So, throw in a TV Tuner, Wireless Card, or any other combination of 2 cards and you are fine for 90+% of the users out there.

This is certainly more expandable than my MicroA1 because I am limited there to a single PCI slot.   Sure I have a cpu socket that is upgradable but there have been no cpu upgrade modules available for sale, so it could have been a soldered on cpu for all it matters.

 

[HammerD]

amigakid wrote:
Wow what great specs for 1997.  Oh wait it's 2007.  My older KDS laptop has better specs.  How about they try to hit the year 2000 in specs then i might think about parting with that money.  Comeon AInc with the costs of stuff so low now why cant you just give us something that is a bit more powerful.  Once again crap from them and hell we'll pay and not recieve it anyways so why not exaggerate the specs to make us feel better.

Ok. You have to understand and realize that this board is for *AMIGA OS4* and not *WINDOWS VISTA*.  OS4 will run quite nicely on this board!  Okay, perhaps you won't be decoding H.264 video in real-time on it but then again that is even hard to do on high-end PC's today.

In the context that this board is targeted for and in the price range where you can sell in quantity, this machine fits the bill quite nicely.

Remember it was the lower cost Amigas that sold in the highest volumes and that is what we really need right now: MORE USERS!

Besides, there will be a high end board announced next week according to Amiga Inc.'s press release.

So if you don't like the low end board then purchase the high end one....this is like A1200 vs. A4000  

[HammerD]

jiffydos wrote:
At risk of appearing to be a whiner, I certainly feel that this equipment is far under my expectations for what even the newest low-end amiga would be.

A MPC8349E at 400Mhz is not what I had in mind when they said a new system was coming out... and certainly not one that had provisioning for only 1 memory slot.

I was hoping to see something more like the MPC8641D at 1.5Ghz and up to 2GB of RAM (or, at least 2 slots).

I guess I was dreaming.

OK I have to say it again, the purpose of this machine is to fill the A500/A1200 space of the market.  Low cost, lower specs, higher volume (hopefully).  Don't get fooled by the MHz myth here.  Amiga OS4 is NOT bloated like Windows or other OS's (to a lesser extent MacOS or Linux).  It is small, lean and can run quite nicely in far less than 256MB of ram and on a slower processor.  Don't forget the memory is DDR2 and I'm sure the memory controller will absolutely smoke the AmigaOne's.  1 GIG is a MOUNTAIN of ram for OS4 and I can only see a very small percentage of people actually using that much.  I am very happy with only 256 MB of ram in my MicroA1.

And those people who NEED more will be able to BUY more, in the higher end machine that hopefully will be announced next week if the tea leaves are correct

 

[HammerD]

And your point is?

[koaftder]

With these specs, I might as well go dumpster diving and pull out a 1GHz thunderbird for free and install windows 95. That sucker would fly, and I'd get the memory protection and a descent web browser unlike what doesn't exist on AOS4, and all for free.

500 dollars for a 400MHz machine, no thanks. For 100 dollars more I can get a mac mini, which would freaking blow it out of the water.

[HammerD]

meega wrote:
Only 1GB RAM? Not enough these days.

And just what OS do you plan to run on the new hardware that would make 1GB not enough?

I am quite happily running OS4 in 256 megabytes of RAM since 2 years now.  Not because I don't love ram: don't get me wrong, all my PC's have 1+ GB of ram and my main PC (running Vista) has 2GB.

If I felt that I would benefit from more ram for my MicroA1 I would have bought it a long time ago.  But really, guys, you just don't NEED it.  OS4 is fine on 256MB.  

[HammerD]

Argus wrote:
$489???  And I presume by the conspicuous non-mention you need to buy your own RAM, HD, DVD and, most importantly, OS (cause no mention of OEM version).  That makes this six year old spec more on the order of $800...insanity....

I believe it is said in the press release that it will ship as a finished system sans monitor only.  That would mean it would include a hard drive, memory, graphics card, case, mouse, keyboard, power cable, OS4 CDROM, etc etc.

Basically hook up your monitor plug in the system to your Hydro and you are good-to-go.

[HammerD]

koaftder wrote:
With these specs, I might as well go dumpster diving and pull out a 1GHz thunderbird for free and install windows 95. That sucker would fly, and I'd get the memory protection and a descent web browser unlike what doesn't exist on AOS4, and all for free.

500 dollars for a 400MHz machine, no thanks. For 100 dollars more I can get a mac mini, which would freaking blow it out of the water.

Then why are you even here?  OS4 has minimal hardware requirements so it makes sense to offer a minimal configuration with a low cost (we are talking complete system here (minus monitor) for less than $500 bucks).  I seem to recall that is about the same price as the A1200 was.  

You have to compare this machine in the context of previous Amiga computers and clones like the Pegasos.

It is not really fair to compare it with computers from billion dollar companies like Apple and Dell/HP/Acer, etc...who run Microsoft Windows or MacOS X.

OS4 was developed on a shoe-string budget and actually turned out to be quite a nice stable product.  I really am thankful for that and I hope the legal issues can be worked out and we can all move forward and enjoy the new hardware later this summer.

[Minuous]

400MHz is an insult, there are mobile phones these days that are clocked faster.

I certainly won't be wasting my money on this crap.

[Tahoe]

Man, why is everybody so quick to jump the gun and dismiss this machine.
Why not just wait and see what happens?

All of you fools have fallen for the Mhz trap, you need higher specs machine etc etc blah blah. Come on. Wait and see it run first.

IF this ever gets released, and if it will run any type of AmigaOS I will buy one. Come on, 400Mhz is waaaay enough to run a lean-mean OS. Sure, not Vista, OSX or whatever, but if I want to run any of those I'll buy a wintel machine.

First I'll wait to see if anything gets shipped, ifso which OS included. The CPU is likely to be 68000 series compatible; right? That means it's likely to run OS3.9 or AmigaDE or whatever it was called.

Or maybe AmigaDE=OS5 ?!

[CLS2086]

Actual laserprinters got faster CPU nowadays....