How to upgrade your GoldenGate486slc/25mhz to 486slc2/50mhz!

[Damion]

bloodline wrote:
What is cool is that you can now get a whole 486 computer (everything) on a single chip...

http://www.zflinux.com/zfx86.html

Not as fancy, but worth an honorable mention...

[keropi]

Plaz wrote:
I always wondered if that could be done. I even saved a couple of those to try myself, but I never got a board to try it in.

So did you get cache driver loaded to increase the speed even more?

Plaz

yeah, it just works by plugging it, but there is a small prog that you run to enable the cache to get more speed... also on the gg486 I needed to edit the 486slc2 reisters to enable also pipelining... all done easy with the program included on the driver-disk ...

[Plaz]

small prog that you run to enable the cache to get more speed...

I recall the cache driver gave a very good boost. Once you have that loaded I'd try doom again and let us know the results.

BTW, whats the part number for the cyrix you have? I'd like to check it against the one I have.

Plaz

[Karlos]

@keropi

I know it isn't the point, but surely DooM is a bit more fun running on the CSPPC in the same box? ;-)

[DamageX]

when DOOM first came out I only had a 386SX-25 to play it on and I would have loved 12fps (which is also much better than ADOOM on my 50MHz 030)

The disadvantage of those Cyrix chips compared to a real 486 is only 1KB of cache instead of 8KB

yay look what I scanned: http://www.hyakushiki.net/junk/cyrix.gif

[CannonFodder]

@Keropi

Report you results back old bean! :-D

[amyren]

I also remember some advertising for a Pentium card for Amiga
slots.

Maybe it was this one?
http://www.mrhardwarecomputers.com/pages/pccard.htm
Together with SiameseRTG or VNC or similar you could have the screen output on your workbench.

I also found an earlier post regarding this card, wondering if these card ever was sold:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26361

[bloodline]

CannonFodder wrote:
@Keropi

Report you results back old bean! :-D

Oh aye!!! Get the AROS x86 floppy booting on it :-D

[CannonFodder]

@Keropi

Did you get a chance to try the AROS boot floppy on your bridgeboard yet?

[keropi]

no sorry, I just saw this thread again, the link is dead... I will try it back home, this evening, provided I have a working download link again

plaz: I will also give you the part number this evening...

[JKD]

That's weird....I used to play Doom all teh time on my GG 486/25...I had the fastest ISA VGA available ever though..has a Cirrus Logic GD 5446 maybe...I forget the name of it now. Also had a genuine soundblaster of course.

I still have the cards somewhere if anyone wants them for a reasonable price...although they haven't been fired up in 5 years.

[keropi]

back in the time, u could play a game like DOOM even if it was choppy... there was no comparison then, now we are all spoiled from 60+ fps...

[spirantho]

The key to getting maximum speed out of a GG is not just the CPU but the RAM. Make sure:
a) You're set to 60nS (0wS)
b) You're running in Fast mode if you can (this speeds the ISA bus up to 10MHz instead of 8, I think - very good for VGA access).
c) You're running a good _contemporary_ memory manager. QEMM version 7 I think was fastest, may have been version 6. MUCH faster than Microsoft's EMM386 and HIMEM.SYS.

Also using sound slows it down a fair amount.

Doom can be playable on it, but you might also need to shrink the graphic window on it a bit.

[keropi]

QEMM ? I don't think I will ever use it, ems can cause probs sometimes, not to mention some games don't like it... I will test it though to see if it really does something...
I already use the FAST option and 0ws...
I had bad luck with faster vga cards, like tseng ones or cirruls logic 5422 on my A4000, there seems to be some timing/incompatibillity error that crash some games... disabling FAST option does not help either...

[amigadave]

I will have to see if I can find a booster 486 chip like that for myself on eBay.  I have a 486slc GG around here somewhere, with a nice VGA card combined with IDE controller and floppy controller I think, plus I have an old Soundblaster.  Can't remember my exact setup that I used to have in my first A2000 with my Vector 030 accellerator.  That A2000 was maxed out in every way I could think of at the time.  Now it has a recent new lease on life with an 060 installed.

Forget DOOM, I would rather play Unlimited Adventures, Forgotten Realms.  It was the last in the line of SSI AD&D games, actually it was a game creator in that style and it never got ported to the Amiga, which was a shame with all the talented Amiga users and programmers that could have done great game designs with that construction kit.

I have it for MSDOS and there is actually still an active group that creates games with it, very fun.

It will be fun to have it running on the Amiga's Bridgeboard, if not an actual port of the program for the Amiga (a dream of mine that will probably never happen).

[spirantho]

As luck would have it this morning I got a 486SLC2/50 upgrade in the post this morning.
Now, where can I find a good benchmarking program.... time for some comparisons!

Oh, I have used a Tseng ET3000 card, but I use a CL GD5428-based Thunderbolt ISA graphics card which is pretty nippy.