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Re: link to the truth.
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2007, 11:32:31 AM »
Ah. Another day, another story, another whirlwind of reactions from lots of people.

I have lost faith in Amiga Inc. many moons ago. I *do* believe in people like Jens or Dennis who at least contribute something in hardware.

I really don't care what they are doing or saying. In Holland we have a saying "geen woorden maar daden", which means roughly "no words, but deeds".

They should stop talking and start acting. Or stop doing business at all.
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Re: link to the truth.
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2007, 01:05:51 PM »
New expression for you all:-


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Re: link to the truth.
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2007, 01:43:08 PM »
They're taking some serious lumps in that news article and public forum. Really it's sad to see some of the comments layied upon the name Amiga, but not surprising. Folks in Kent don't seems to be in the mood for failed promises. AmiInc better have a flawless plan this time, or I wouldn't want to be in there shoes.

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Re: link to the truth.
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2007, 01:51:02 PM »
Pretty scary, seeing all that shady stuff summed up in one place. And I mean real court document stuff. Who in their right mind would do business with these people? For me personally the saddest thing is the way they are soiling the Amiga name with their actions (tax evasion, not paying people's wages, setting up a new entity in a different state to avoid having to comply with court orders, etc.) Really, really sad.

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Re: link to the truth.
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2007, 01:52:58 PM »
I have to say that I avoided MooBunny so far and topics like this which it seems like that was a good idea.

All I ever wanted was to get some hardware and run AmigaOS4 because I enjoy using the OS. I have a microA1 with OS4 and use it regularly, dabbling in some programming for it which is also enjoyable, but the more I see all of this embarassing stuff going on in public, it seems the Amiga name really is just a joke and it isn't going to go anywhere. Not that I didn't see this coming, but I really wanted to be part of the new OS and see if it could be moved forward. With what I see from Hyperion, things look pretty good.

Nothing new being stated here. It's just a shame this supposed 'community' has come down to this. I really hope Amiga Inc don't blow this sponsorship spectacularly because to get bad press for something like that (which could spread fairly widely mainstream in the US) would be the final nail.

Just a bit depressed about this stuff. Time to move on but I'm keeping the A1 as I still love using AmigaOS, it's just awful seeing such opportunities squandered, basically from 1985 on.  :cry:

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Re: link to the truth.
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2007, 01:59:18 PM »
I found this link interesting in that apparently someone who knew nothing about Amigas came to the conclusion from some research that Amiga Inc. is a shady business.
Anyone who thinks after this that Amiga Inc. will be a saviour to Amiga computing has to think twice.
Businesses rely on goodwill and capital, and obviously Amiga Inc. struggles to garner either based on the reputation they have developed and the negative information out there.
It's a real shame.
 

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Re: link to the truth.
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2007, 02:12:55 PM »
Now im just getting irritated.  Amiga Inc. ever since Bill's reign is a JOKE.

I am glad the person that didnt know anything about amiga found out what was up, and it didnt take him long to realize how much of a screwup Amiga is. And also, who would want their center to be called Amiga lol.

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Re: link to the truth.
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2007, 02:15:11 PM »
@Plaz
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Really it's sad to see some of the comments layied upon the name Amiga, but not surprising. Folks in Kent don't seems to be in the mood for failed promises.


In the States there isn't much value attached to the Amiga brand-name IMHO. Amiga was never really famous in the US, while things were very different in major parts of Europe.

Maybe a small amount of people will remember it as "some game computer", but the rest will probably think something like "George" on the forum linked above (maybe less drastic though):

George wrote:
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Who in their right mind would call an event center “AMIGA”? I cannot imagine a name that is tackier. For f*cks sake, we are not a Mexican whorehouse or taco shop; it’s supposed to be an event center!
 

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Re: link to the truth.
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2007, 02:44:48 PM »
the truth comes out eventually.  glad it did.  thats the same info I sent to a few folks @ corporate & the city.  (kinda the same..didnt send moobunny links etc)..  interesting reading material to say the least.
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Re: link to the truth.
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2007, 03:15:48 PM »
LMAO!! This image popped up in the Random Photo box when I was reading this thread. You think it's the start of construction of the Kent event centre?

http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=455=38

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Re: link to the truth.
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2007, 03:22:26 PM »
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Steady wrote:

All I ever wanted was to get some hardware and run AmigaOS4 because I enjoy using the OS. I have a microA1 with OS4 and use it regularly, dabbling in some programming for it which is also enjoyable, but the more I see all of this embarassing stuff going on in public, it seems the Amiga name really is just a joke and it isn't going to go anywhere. Not that I didn't see this coming, but I really wanted to be part of the new OS and see if it could be moved forward. With what I see from Hyperion, things look pretty good.


We all knew it was coming. A company that keeps a name
and don't do anything with it for so long can't be much
more than a joke. They were not interested in the Amiga
OS in the first place, and when they suddenly became
interested they create a licencing scheme that makes it
impossible to find a suitable hardware.

And finally when "the grassroots" work their asses off and
comes up with atleast some hardware namely SAM then Amiga
Inc. declines them a licence.

Acube teams up with Hyperion and Amiga's next move is to
quickly team up with another party so that they can steal
the show.

-"pleased to announce that new hardware is on its way for Amiga users." said MCBill

Oh yes what an effort you made there, I am astonished
that Acube and Hyperion is capable of being this silent
after this announcement of an announcement.

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Nothing new being stated here. It's just a shame this supposed 'community' has come down to this. I really hope Amiga Inc don't blow this sponsorship spectacularly because to get bad press for something like that (which could spread fairly widely mainstream in the US) would be the final nail.


It's not as the community invented this hate just by itself
really. Credits goes right back to Amiga Inc. And what are
they going to show at the Amiga Centre. Cell phone games ?
We will be a even bigger laughing stock after Amiga brings
attention to themselves via the Amiga Centre. They have nothing to show it's just words.

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Just a bit depressed about this stuff. Time to move on but I'm keeping the A1 as I still love using AmigaOS, it's just awful seeing such opportunities squandered, basically from 1985 on.  :cry:

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Re: link to the truth.
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2007, 03:53:37 PM »
jesus christ!

people in Kent must now think everyone who ever used an Amiga is some bitter, troublmaking child with nothing better to do that go on sites all over the world and spew forth more venom!

how childish and stupid!

this is Certainly NOT the proper way to convey information.

I'm just disgusted.  :madashell:
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Re: link to the truth.
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2007, 03:54:23 PM »
@Garrett

Looks like Amiga freaks have found yet another online forum to continue their discussions about Amiga Inc on. Using MooBunny as a source of information is just stupid IMHO. Discussions there are often filled with swearing and generally come across as ravings of the immature. Not something that you'd use to make business decisions.

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Re: link to the truth.
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2007, 03:56:22 PM »
This is truely the saddest, lowest state I have seen the "official/corporate" version of Amiga in for a long time.

On the other hand, it does feel good to finally see someone outside the Amiga community expose the crap like "worlds premier provider of multi-media..." and "third most recognized brand in Europe" and blow the whole thing wide open.  Hopefully this will make it into the local Kent newspaper (has anyone forwarded links/info to it yet?).

I do agree though that the links to MooBunny on that forum along with the petty & poorly spelled arguments about hardware, etc. are making Amigans look pretty pathetic to the general public.
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