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Offline takemehomegrandma

Re: William Hamilton Buck, the saviour?
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2003, 11:03:05 PM »
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Terminills wrote:
if you read again it says applicant not registrant


Word Mark AMIGA
Goods and Services (ABANDONED) IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: computer software used to facilitate development of software applications that can run on multiple platforms and other electronic devices; operating system software for personal computers and other electronic devices
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 76096557
Filing Date July 11, 2000
Filed ITU FILED AS ITU
Published for Opposition April 9, 2002
Owner (APPLICANT) Amiga, Inc. CORPORATION  WASHINGTON 34935 SE Douglas Street, Suite 210 Snoqualmie WASHINGTON 98065
Attorney of Record P. Weston Musselman
Prior Registrations 2319266;2369059
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator DEAD
Abandonment Date January 3, 2003
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

Offline KennyR

Re: William Hamilton Buck, the saviour?
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2003, 11:03:58 PM »
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whats to celebrate ? he's the saviour? of what ?

now that buck is a _applicant_ of the name AMIGA,
the marked will suddenly rise and Morphos will
suddenly sell in hundreds of thousands ?


I think he means that AInc's oppression of the Amiga community and their forcing them to buy licenced, dongled hardware will be removed. This is what's holding Amiga back. At last the Amiga community can flourish again.
 

Offline catohagen

Re: William Hamilton Buck, the saviour?
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2003, 11:04:54 PM »
>But he could release a pegasos with on-board >video in an A1200 style case and call it an >Amiga legally!

what a1200 style case would hold that huge 60mm
tall cpu card ? :-D
 

Offline KennyR

Re: William Hamilton Buck, the saviour?
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2003, 11:08:18 PM »
So he's an applicant. What can possibly stop him from obtaining it? AInc put in a higher bid? :lol: Or even AInc launching an expensive legal challenge? They're selling their off their office equipment and can't pay their employees, for crying out loud!
 

Offline takemehomegrandma

Re: William Hamilton Buck, the saviour?
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2003, 11:09:03 PM »
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catohagen wrote:
>But he could release a pegasos with on-board >video in an A1200 style case and call it an >Amiga legally!

what a1200 style case would hold that huge 60mm
tall cpu card ? :-D


Everything has to be bent to fit in here anyway, so I guess it's possible! ;-)
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

Offline catohagen

Re: William Hamilton Buck, the saviour?
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2003, 11:11:24 PM »
And what did Amiga Inc pay 5(?) million US dollar for ?
buck pays 300 and some dollar and now the Amiga community can flourish again ?

sounds to easy :-D


 

Offline Terminills

Re: William Hamilton Buck, the saviour?
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2003, 11:12:00 PM »
@KennyR

All it takes is a disbute with a fairly well documented reason for why it shouldn't be accepted.


The USPTO may refuse to register your mark on numerous grounds. The most common are:

Likelihood of Confusion

The USPTO conducts a search for conflicting marks as part of the official examination of an application only after a trademark application is filed. In evaluating an application, the examining attorney conducts a search of USPTO records to determine whether there is a conflict between the mark in the application and a mark that is either registered or pending in the USPTO. The principal factors considered in reaching this decision are the similarity of the marks and the commercial relationship between the goods and services identified by the marks. To find a conflict, the marks do not have to be identical or the goods and services the same; instead, it is sufficient if the marks are similar and the goods and or services related. Similarity in sound, appearance, or meaning may be sufficient to support a finding of likelihood of confusion.

When a conflict exists between the applicant’s mark and a registered mark, the examining attorney will refuse registration of the applicant’s mark on the ground of likelihood of confusion. If a conflict exists between the applicant’s mark and a mark in an earlier-filed pending application, the examining attorney will notify the applicant of the potential conflict. The applicant’s mark will be refused on the ground of likelihood of confusion only if the earlier-filed application becomes registered.

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Offline Lando

Re: William Hamilton Buck, the saviour?
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2003, 11:12:57 PM »
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catohagen wrote:
whats to celebrate ? he's the saviour? of what ?



now that buck is a _applicant_ of the name AMIGA,

the marked will suddenly rise and Morphos will

suddenly sell in hundreds of thousands ? :-D


Certainly a possibility.
"The Name" means a lot to a lot of people.

I was chatting in irc last night, in a Mac channel.  I mentioned that MacOS X runs on new Amigas (referring to Pegasos and A1) under MOL.  They were all excited and wanted to know more so i told them to look at PegasosPPC.com and they said "This has nothing to do with Amiga, we're not interested, this is about something called Pegasos and MorphOS" and they wanted to know where hardware information was on Amiga.com (I couldnt find any).

Now, to all intents and purposes, Pegasos is an Amiga - at least as much (or more) of an Amiga than the A1 is.  But it doesn't have the name! Amiga is a name that people recognise, and it makes them feel safer buying into it.

Give it the name, and everybody's happy.  All the Amiga cheerleaders are happy because they've finally got a company worth cheering for, and all the Genesi people are happy because their profile is suddenly raised and sales increase.

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Offline catohagen

Re: William Hamilton Buck, the saviour?
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2003, 11:14:30 PM »
sorry, double post
 

Offline takemehomegrandma

Re: William Hamilton Buck, the saviour?
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2003, 11:16:14 PM »
Anyway, I wouldn't count on this too much if I were you.

But then again, -you never know! :-D
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

Offline KennyR

Re: William Hamilton Buck, the saviour?
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2003, 11:17:35 PM »
btw. I have to laugh at people criticising a 60mm CPU card on a board a third the size of an A1. :-)
 

Offline catohagen

Re: William Hamilton Buck, the saviour?
« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2003, 11:22:21 PM »
>btw. I have to laugh at people criticising a 60mm CPU card on a board a third the size of an A1.

:-D and i laugh at people thinking a 60mm tall
board would fit in an a1200 style case, but ofcource, everything is possible...:-)
 

Offline Salup

Re: William Hamilton Buck, the saviour?
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2003, 12:14:22 AM »
Not with that trademark. It is only for computer software.
 

Offline Ferry

Re: William Hamilton Buck, the saviour?
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2003, 01:14:50 AM »
It's only an application, and the worst thing is that he knows he will not get the registration:

http://www.flyingmice.com/cgi-bin/squidcgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/86498.shtml

If the mark were to be used in another kind of business, it would be possible to register it, but not for computer-related business. It would be confusing. Only the company who owns the trademark can register similar names, AFAIK.

Of course, I can be mistaken...

Ferrán.
Amiga user since 1988
AOS4 Betatester
Member of ATO Spain
A1200/060/SCSI
A1 XE-G4/933
 

Offline HMetal

Re: William Hamilton Buck, the saviour?
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2003, 03:10:12 AM »
More flip-flopping and games?

The key here is in Buck's recent postings are from an old e-mail dialog he posted, where he says "we will use the Amiga community as early adopters."  Key word -> USE.      Happy riding on the roller coaster.  I just hope you don't fall out. :-)

And two (or so) weeks ago it was "we are no longer interested in Amiga nor its trademarks." :roll:

What will it be next week?  Takeover of Microsoft?  :lol:

Wake me up when something interesting happens.

...Lemmings anyone?

Edit:  Amiga has first use.  All Amiga need do is challenge the application and it's dead and, AFAIK, this is already in progress.
Ray A. Akey / AKA HMetal