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Offline D@nTopic starter

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What Hardware?
« on: June 15, 2003, 05:04:19 PM »
Sigh!
After a long time without a miggy or the resources to buy it I have had a stroke of luck I won £350 playing the trumpet in a competition and my first thought was to spend it on an Amiga!
Though I am not sure which one to spend it on :-?
I was thinking about the Pegasos/MorphOS as it looks really cool and seems to be being developed loads for and has lots of software being written for it.

And then I was thinking about OS4/AmigaOne as it is the official release and when it is finally released it will have a ton of software (I should imagine) written for it.

I also heard somewhere of a OS4 Kit for the Pegasos, is this ever going to be released as I don't think the AmigaOne XE is terribly good for the money, though I'm sure the OS is first class
Any suggestions appreciated
Dan :-)
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Re: What Hardware?
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2003, 05:15:35 PM »
I wouldn't by either at the moment.  The AmigaONE is just a Linux box without OS4, and I'd wait for OS4/A1 reviews before buying a Pegasos.

Both are overpriced compared to an x86 board, although may compare favourably with a Mac.  IIRC the A1 can beat the Pegasos at benchmarks, but the Pegasos II will be better than the Pegasos - but it's not out yet.  Don't count on an OS4 kit for Pegasos - you could very well be disappointed.

So I'd wait around for a bit.  Try out a Pegasos and an A1/OS4 if you can.  And ignore people who tell you to get their solution without any good argument to back them up.  I'm currently waiting, but I've decided on the A1 route myself.
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Re: What Hardware?
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2003, 05:17:50 PM »
@D@n

One problem with buying the A1 with that money:

It is quite a few pounds sterling *more* than you have.

The only board in your price range is the Pegasos, honestly.
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Re: What Hardware?
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2003, 05:19:22 PM »
Allrighty!
In the meen time whats the news on AROS (I have a pretty decent x86 box) is it functional enough to run aps yet.
What about WinUAE hows the speed with that is it useful etc.
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Re: What Hardware?
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2003, 05:22:08 PM »
@downix
Price isn't really the issue atm I hav a loada stuff 2 sell on ebay. But that doesn't mean I will be buying 2 boards however. Well not in the *forseable* future anyway ;-)
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Re: What Hardware?
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2003, 05:59:18 PM »
If I had to chose between AmigaOne and the Pegasos today, then I would put my money one the Pagasos (or Pagasos2).

Does it matter is AmigaOS4 runs on a Pegasos or not? AmigaOS5 is supposed to run on anything.

MorphOS is out! And it got a 68k emulator. Its not required, but its a nice bonus. AmigaOS4 is however not out, and it does not look as fancy as MorphOS does. And MorphOS supports MUI!

I know what I want :)

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Re: What Hardware?
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2003, 06:05:11 PM »
While I think that the PegII will be out "soon" enough to bring it in here, I think that waiting for OS5 is an odd reason to not buy the A1.  Why not wait a few more years untill a computer can emulate the A1 and the Peg brilliantly? :-)

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it does not look as fancy as MorphOS does


And MacOS beats them all :-D.  OS4 will be very configurable, and I'd imagine MorphOS is.  Besides, I personally prefer the OS4 look - it's all a matter of preference.

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And MorphOS supports MUI!


So does AmigaOS.  The difference is that AmigaOS is based on Reaction, while MorphOS is based on MUI.  MorphOS certainly allows you to confugure MUI more, so I'll put that in it's favour.
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Re: What Hardware?
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2003, 06:07:27 PM »
BTW: As far as I know. The Pegasos and MorphOS was Commodores choice of path into the future.

The AmigaOne is Amiga.inc official way. You might say that they are walking a parallel path for the moment...
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Re: What Hardware?
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2003, 06:08:58 PM »
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D@n wrote:
Allrighty!
In the meen time whats the news on AROS (I have a pretty decent x86 box) is it functional enough to run aps yet.
What about WinUAE hows the speed with that is it useful etc.



You can download AROS from my site with a whole bunch of stuff included, games and Apps. But sadly The Networking is not available... which is a bit of a downer.

Still it is fun to play!!! :-D

Linq
www.ahsodit.com/aros/
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Re: What Hardware?
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2003, 06:13:58 PM »
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I think that waiting for OS5 is an odd reason to not buy the A1
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You won't be running OS5 on an A1. It's far by obsolete by that time. You'll be running OS5 on ANY computer you want...
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Re: What Hardware?
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2003, 06:16:40 PM »
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You won't be running OS5 on an A1. It's far by obsolete by that time. You'll be running OS5 on ANY computer you want...


As will the Pegasos, PegasosII, today's x86 hardware and today's Macs.  So what?  OS5 currently has no relevence whatsoever to buying an A1 or a Peg.
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Re: What Hardware?
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2003, 06:21:09 PM »
Hey!? It was you who said it, not me...

Well...sort of. But you get the point?

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Re: What Hardware?
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2003, 06:28:34 PM »
Does anyone know exactly how AmigaOS5 is supposed to work? I don't want to hear any Tao nonsense.  :-D
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Re: What Hardware?
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2003, 01:53:27 AM »
My advice would be to skip them both for now... Buy an 1GHz Athlon system and a Catweasel MK3 PCI... Run either WinUAE or Amithlon.

Minimal install of Win98se, replace shell=explorer.exe with shell=winuae.exe in the system.ini file. Enjoy your CHEAP, FAST, CLASSIC Amiga emulation box  :-D

Use a hard drive caddy and switch out operating systems, such as AROS! (thought I'd throw you a plug Bloodline)
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Re: What Hardware?
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2003, 07:22:45 AM »
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D@n wrote:
Sigh!

And then I was thinking about OS4/AmigaOne as it is the official release and when it is finally released it will have a ton of software (I should imagine) written for it.



My strongest reason for picking AmigaOne is it's coded from the original source code and they have access to the original chipset designs. Although a few people have come out and said, access to the original chipsets is a useless argument, I totally disagree, because, if it's not, how come it's so difficult to emulate AGA on x86s??? Even OCS/ECS.

I also feel that the group they assembled have a good feel for the spirit of Amiga.

In addition to that
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 12:43 am

No, petunia is external. However, the interpeter emulator is integrated, that's about 17000 lines alone, plus things have been added. All in all, there is now about 34000 lines of assembler and about 70000 lines of C in the kernel, but then, this isn't just ExecSG but also the emulator and expansion.library, which also includes the PCI system.
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Lots of PPC assembler, woooohoooo!


AmigaOne! You'll fly like in those ms commercials!!!!


Disclaimer: I'm not employed in any capacity by the companies behind A1, nor do I sell HW/SW, I'm just biased!

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