City of Kent Sells Naming Rights To Amiga

[mikrucio]

THIS IS THE FUNNIEST THREAD EVA!!!!

[mpiva]

TheMagicM wrote:
I emailed a few folks whom I wont name w/the City of Kent and some folks w/corporate @ the Seattle Thunderbirds, that were surprised to hear the bad side of AI.  "They seemed like nice people in our meetings".    So I sent 'em some reading material and wished them the best of luck.

I really don't see how going out of our way to tell people how horrible Amiga Inc is helps us get OS4 on new, licensed hardware.  I'm not saying I approve of anything Amiga Inc. has done but it seams that if there is ANY hope of things changing for the better, this "community" will be sure to squash it. :whack: :roll:

What hope is there left?

[Bug_racer]

mpiva wrote:

What hope is there left?

To buy out Amiga Inc  :rtfm:  :crazy:

[aardvark]

@Redrumloa
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benJamin wrote:
Obviously, Amiga Inc.'s biggest issue is the community of Amiga hobbyist and devouts (and former employees, obviously). Just look at all the flames going on here, and Amiga.org is VERY high on Google's response for searches on the name Amiga. Any potential customer worth their salt IS going to google the name, find this site, see a large bunch of disgruntled customers who act like and often are employees related directly to the name.

This is what's keeping Amiga Inc. down.


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Google search: +amiga +inc +fraud

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Results 1 - 10 of about 51,100 for +amiga +inc +fraud. (0.09 seconds)

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Results 1 - 50 of about 1,250,000 for +ibm +inc +fraud. (0.20 seconds)

Results 1 - 50 of about 1,140,000 for +gateway +inc +fraud. (0.09 seconds)

Offhand by comparison I don't think we look too bad.
 :-D

[TheMagicM]

I really don't see how going out of our way to tell people how horrible Amiga Inc is helps us get OS4 on new, licensed hardware. I'm not saying I approve of anything Amiga Inc. has done but it seams that if there is ANY hope of things changing for the better, this "community" will be sure to squash it.  

AI will squash their own "dreams" and the last thing you'll see is licensed hardware.

[Ral-Clan]

TJLAZER wrote:
I would hardly call the Seattle Metropolitan area a smallish city!!!

I'm just going by the descriptions of the several Amiga.org posters who've actually been to Kent, Washington.  They stated it was a smallish city.

[humppa]

The plan is awaiting final approval before the session ends this weekend.

LINK

I hope that the city council, or at least the local newspapers will have a clearer picture about Amiga Inc. by then.

[mpiva]

TheMagicM wrote:
AI will squash their own "dreams" and the last thing you'll see is licensed hardware.

If you believe that is true, why do you feel such a strong need to "help" them do that?

Bug_racer wrote:
To buy out Amiga Inc

Ha!  Like that's going to happen.  Okay, who's going to start a bounty for buying out Amiga Inc?  
 :lol:

[TheMagicM]

If you believe that is true, why do you feel such a strong need to "help" them do that?

Oh, I'm just helping the poor folks @ Kent out..showing them how to use google, reading threads on AO.. Just being your regular netizen.  A little bit of information never hurt anyone.  Besides, money talks right?  So AI should be a-ok with the millions..and MILLIONS they have stockpiled.  :lol:

[NoFastMem]

mpiva wrote:

I really don't see how going out of our way to tell people how horrible Amiga Inc is helps us get OS4 on new, licensed hardware.  I'm not saying I approve of anything Amiga Inc. has done but it seams that if there is ANY hope of things changing for the better, this "community" will be sure to squash it. :whack: :roll:

What hope is there left?

If there is any hope for the Amiga platform (the thing we actually care about) the chances that it's with Amiga Inc (a company that happens to own the name) are pretty slim, let's be fair.

The press release is disgusting. As though it's not sickening enough that they claim Commodore's success with the Amiga as their own, third party solutions (such as the Video Toaster one assumes they're alluding to when they talk of the Amiga as a studio mainstay) are plucked for their portfolio too. They had f**k-all to do with any of these products.

And then the "premier provider of multimedia enabling technologies." Really? Not Apple, Microsoft, Adobe/Macromedia?

Amiga Inc is a joke. A bad, bad joke.

[bhoggett]

Heh...

It seems the Amiga scene is the only place you can go away for several years and then look in on it with absolute confidence that nothing will have changed in any way.

Still no products, more "deals" and "announcements" of no relevance whatsoever to the community, complete confusion over who owns what, and people still worrying that "bad publicity" might "hurt the chances of OS4".

As for McEwen, I don't know much about his activities while at Gateway - though he wasn't part of the decision making process there and they didn't exactly consider him vital to their operations - but his record since getting control of things Amiga via Amino (later Amiga Inc) is one of 100% utter failure. "third most recognized brand in Europe" is one heck of a misleading statement. Sure, people recognise the brand - they recognise it as a dead brand, just like Commodore 64, Sinclair Spectrum or Compaq. None of these are associated with contemporary products or technologies, wven if they are nominally still alive.

Is anyone aware of coming into contact with of this supposed wireless multimedia technology in their day-to-day life?

After so many years, just what is it people still expect might happen?

[odin]

After so many years, just what is it people still expect might happen?

Why, Digital [d]Convergence![/d], er.. sorry Digital Living! Ofcourse!

[humppa]

As for McEwen, I don't know much about his activities while at Gateway - though he wasn't part of the decision making process there and they didn't exactly consider him vital to their operations - but his record since getting control of things Amiga via Amino (later Amiga Inc) is one of 100% utter failure.

The question is why didn't Amiga Inc's investors (Prokom, Pentti Kouri/Invisible Hand, etc.) already replace him with someone who might at least create a tiny chance of making profits? If the investors would really invest in Amiga Inc. for making profits, they would have already fired him a long time ago and installed somebody else. But they didn't.
There must be reasons why they still keep him as a marionette.

[Dandy]

humppa wrote:

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True. The question why McEwen didn't already get fired during the last few years would be way more interesting to think about:

Amiga Inc does have investors. Investors (usually) invest for making profits. From the outside it appears that McEwen has done an incredibly bad job at that. None of the original goals were achieved and the few mobile games they are selling can hardly generate enough profits to run a business from, let alone make investors happy.

So why didn't they already fire either him or any other management staff?

Is the idea of Amiga Inc. functioning as a shell company for their investors really that abstruse?
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Well, a friend of mine and ex-amigan already in 2001 suspected that the new owners see the Amiga just as a kind of tax amortisation model and would never ever produce anything or make any profit.

Perhaps it is even secretly used by Mafia-related individuals to launder money from illigal businesses - who knows...

I'm afraid I have to admit it looks like he was right up to now...

[humppa]

Perhaps it is even secretly used by Mafia-related individuals to launder money from illigal businesses - who knows...

Don't know, at least Pentti Kouri is chairman of the board which might explain some things...

Wikipedia Link

Today, he is remembered for his participation to controversial "Kouri-deals" in late 1980s. In "Kouri-deals", a group of investors including Dr. Kouri collaborated to buy a majority of two largest banks of Finland, mostly with borrowed money, causing a political outcry.

 :roll:

[Dandy]

jahc wrote:
I dont understand why people dont see this as a positive news item..
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If we just ignore that this has anything to do with Amiga Inc, dont you think the following is quite cool??

The facility will have the capacity to bring technologic advancements that will alter the fan experience by dramatically enhancing the interaction between a visitor and the sport or event. For example the "Amiga Center at Kent" will have the technology in place allowing event-goers to watch instant replays on a handheld device and to order, pay for and have food delivered using only a cell phone. If this technology is implemented, Thunderbirds' fans will be able to enjoy a closer connection with the game and its players by accessing real-time statistical updates and engaging in digital interactions with players. In addition, Amiga technology could streamline ticket sales for all "Amiga Center at Kent" events.

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No.
I'm not an Thunderbirds fan - and before this news item I thought Kent was a county in England.

So why should this be cool for me?

Cool would have been if they had payed Bolton Peck instead and finally had sent out the vouchers after five (or were it already six?) years of waiting...


 :madashell: