So.. what are we all buying?

[jumpship]

@JurassicCamper

4. Do you need a CPU Fan ?

Yes, in a word! ;-)

But if you want answeres email/phone Eyetech, I am sure they will be happy to put your fears to rest

6. What PCI / AGP cards are supported ?

I asked Hyperion and was told to go for the ATI Radeon, so i now have a 7500 :-)

[olegil]

Did any of these test use a 750FX?

Edit:
The reason I'm asking is that the 750FX is rumoured to be at least 30% faster than the 750CXe on the same frequency. But if the 7451 is also 30% faster, it's gonna boil down to which has higher frequency. And the G4@800MHz beats the G3@700. Even though I think the G3 will be easier to overclock.

[Herewegoagain]

Well, ultimately, I want to get the AmigaOne-XE/G4/800 but if money is too tight when it hits (close to Christmas) then I may just have to wait a bit or go for the lesser SE/600 and deal with it for awhile.

[Crumb]

I think that G4 apps will come out pretty soon, because Exec SG allows it, and in the XE version the price difference between the g3 & the g4 is so small than a G4 seems to me like a much better option.

We are switching to ppcs because we need raw power, the Altivec unit will allow us to do number crunching way better than integer units... that means for example creating divx way faster than using integer/floating point instructions...

the 750FX may be faster with some operations, but I think that in the long run a G4 will be much better.

[Balti]

@JurassicCamper

1. REGISTERED !!! SD_RAM that was approved/tested as the
articia is very picky. Just buy it at the same place as the board.

2. ?

3. AMR: NO !! ATX-plate USB: wasn't that in the ATX-back-plate ?

4. Don't know.

5. Sorry but why anybody would want to use USB when he has ps/ is
beyound my understanding. Linux might work with USB-mice, maybe even
the "BIOS", but I really would adviise you on ps/2 here.

6. not many  ;-)

[strobe]

PowerBook Titanium 1Ghz/1GB/Combo...

It's in Indianapolis right now....oh the agony of FedEx ground...

[MikeB]

@ olegil

Floating point performance should still be better for the G4, even with a G3 750FX at a much higher clock rate. Some official data from Motorola and IBM for some rough comparison:

------CPU----------------------------Spec95 (int)-Spec95 (fp)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
G3 750FX @ 900 MHz--------------39.9 ---------21.1-------
G4 7451   @ 733 MHz----------------32.1 ---------23.9-------

The integer performance difference is about what you would expect, based on the higher G3 clock rate. Yet still the G4 is about 12% faster with regard to floating point performance.

My conclusion, even when taking out of account the very cool Velocity Engine, the G4 is a slightly better overall performing CPU than a G3 at the same clock rate.

I am planning on ordering up the 800Mhz G4 system within the next few days. I have always loved my Amigas and am thrilled to find out something new is finallly being released.  

 I have a few questions.   I have an A1200 and would want to connect it to the AmigaOne board for backwards compatibility through the PCI bridge.  What kind of a system case do you all recommend for this, what size power supply  and is the PCI bridge card available yet?  

Thanks..

Mike

[Panthro]

G4 it WILL be mine ...oh yes it will be mine ;-)

I also could not afford the A4000 040 (got A1200)


will have dream G4XE plus ATI 7500  Mawwhahahah :-D

[JurassicCamper]

Eyetech terminated their contract with Escena.

 
This PCI bridge card has been discussed on the Amiga1 and OS4 mailing lists.
The consensus is that it is a Escena only project. They may be developing one but they are uncontactable.
If any of our German friends would like to pop down to see them and get some info it would be nice.

They are located in Braunschweig and there is a map on their website.

www.escena.de

[tonyw]

I can't remember where I read it now, but somewhere, Hyperion stated that the on-board audio chip is rather limited and is not supported. A separate sound card (SB Live! is recommended) is required. Support for the SB Live! is supplied with AOS4.

So the AMR is of no use to you unless you DIY.

On the subject of G3 Vs G4, the Motorola site has a pdf that tries to convince you to throw out your G3 and plug in a G4. It claims that the sustained data transfer rate of a G4 is about 2.5x the speed of a G3, using a 100 or 133 MHz bus. It achieves this by more intelligent cache controls.

tony

[J]

tonyw wrote:
I can't remember where I read it now, but somewhere, Hyperion stated that the on-board audio chip is rather limited and is not supported. A separate sound card (SB Live! is recommended) is required. Support for the SB Live! is supplied with AOS4.

I thought Hyperion said that the on-board Audio shouldn't be took difficult to support  :-?  Of course, without an AMR card, supporting it would be useless  :-)

Cheers,

J

AMR has to be the most stupid thing on a mainboard in a long time. At best OS4 will totally ignore it.

Edit:
I will probably get the smaller AOne simply for monetary reasons  :-(
Already bought a really nice Yeong Yang Cube but ram & graphics & sound card will have to wait till AOne is actually released and it is clear how the coupon will be adressed.

[ACE]

This is a tough one.  What I really want is a quiet little system I can use to play DVD, MP3, some retro games, surf the web and to play with O/S 4.0.
I'm tempted to try and create a little TV on Demand type device (I wonder if Randeon AIW will (ever) be supported soon?)  [What I really want is support for a Digital Tuner Card, now we have Freeview over in the UK]
So if a G3/600MHz is powerful enough for this, then the cooler chip is... well cool!  But I want to be able to watch a DVD, record a TV Channel, and surf the web at the same time (maybe I should wait for dual CPU?)

Does anyone know if Eyetech are still doing there trade in offer?  'cos I really want to get my hands on my new 'miggy ASAP, and if I find at a later date that the SE is not upto my requirements, or that a lot of software utilises AltiVec, I can swap it for an XE

[JurassicCamper]

Been looking round trying to find the best prices for OS4 compatible bits for my G4 mobo when i get it.

www.pcnextday.co.uk

All prices include VAT

ATI 8500 £66
Sound blaster live £25
PC133 SDRAM 512MB £41

The rest is coming out of my Current Miggy.


 :-P  :-P  :-P  :-P

[Tafka]

JurassicCamper wrote:
I was going to order my A1 XE(G4) mobo today.
I emailed eyetech with some questions but havn't got a responce yet.

I asked a question as well and the response I got was less than professional.  They really need to change their attitude if they hope to appeal to the mainstream market.

It wasn't worded like "Thank you for your enquiry" more like "What are you asking that for?".  In fact it was almost like they were trying to make me feel stupid for asking the question.  As far as I'm concerned the only stupid question is one that isn't asked.

I have to admit it did put me off buying from them a little bit.