Problems with BVision card

[pyrre]

ok.. thanx... but in my previous post i asked if the grex is going into to BVision connector on the ppc card...
so, i got that sorted out now. :-)

But, by using the grex... my guess is that I will not be able to use my BVision... Is that correct?

If so, meaning that i have to get myself a Voodoo 3 card...
Will then a VooDoo 3 2000 PCI do the job?

(I got one laying around somewhere)
Guessing that the VooDoo 3 is a bit better than BVision...

[krize]

CLS2086: So this helped stability with BVision ? With a Rev.0 card ?

Thanks for any more info about this

pyrre: If you get the grex hardware, you can use a voodo3 yeah But
still I thought a Rev.0 board would get into problems with grex or
bvision cards ?

[pyrre]

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pyrre: If you get the grex hardware, you can use a voodo3
yeah :) But still I thought a Rev.0 board would get into
problems with grex or bvision cards ?

This is beyond my knowledge, I only know that my rev 0 card is having trouble using the BVision.
But according to CLS 2086 it helped him to use the grex...
I will await the arrival of the diskette DCE is sending me.
The guy i spoke to on phone said it was enough to upgrade the firmware to be able to use the BVision.
If he is right is left to find out...
I will post any updates ASAP....

Hopefully it will solve problems to more people than just me...

(but i got to be honest, it sounds a little to simple just inserting a floppy... and "KACHING"... my firmware is upgraded...)

Cross your fingers for me. (and all others having similar problems)

[Piru]

But according to CLS 2086 it helped him to use the grex...

Uhm. I can only see CLS2086 talk about flashing the BPPC with the GRex flash update, not about using actual GRex hardware.

Anyhow, the GRex flash is the very latest flashupdate available, and thus has the latest 0x0 and ppc libraries. It also works with BVision, however, to my knowlege only CGX4 drivers handle the GRex flash properly.

To recap:

- Rev0 BPPC does work with BVision (well mine does at least)
- Rev0 BPPC does NOT work with GRex (the PCI expansion)
- Rev0 BPPC can be flashed with GRex flashupdate (but this requires CGX4)

[countzero]

I have a Rev 0 BPPC which works Fantastic with my BVision. HOWEVER, you have to make sure you have the latest Libs from Pahse 5. Without those, it was a nightmare. You'll have to use BlizKick from Piru to disable onboard BPPC libs (both 040 and ppc libs). Check aminet and piru's software page for the latest blizkick and info.

An alternative is the BPPCFIX, which is easier to use than blizkick, however I highly recommend blizkick.

[AmigaMance]

(I got one laying around somewhere)
Guessing that the VooDoo 3 is a bit better than BVision...

 Afaik, Voodoo3 is slightly slower in 2D, but faster in 3D.


Piru wrote:

- Rev0 BPPC does work with BVision (well mine does at least)

 Mine too. What i picked up by reading several threads in here is that there are 2 kind of rev.0 cards. The very early one which has issues with the BVision and the newer which is working properly with the BVision.
 I have no experience on this. This is only what i read.

@pyrre
 First of all, have you isolated the problem to the BVision by running WorkBench in AGA mode and see how it behaves?

[krize]

I have also a very early Rev.0 board. I havent used the last flash (gave up and bought a mediator). Now I have uppgraded the ppc card from 040 to 060, and i will give it a new go.

Lets see if it will work better with the latest flash.

[pyrre]

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First of all, have you isolated the problem to the BVision by running WorkBench in AGA mode and see how it behaves?

In "normal" screen modes (i use a hacked version of super27, enabling 800X600V256collors) Workbench behaves perfect...
No problems at all. Multitasking, playing games, watching pictures and videos (though I have not found a good player yet, and only get like 2FPS). And i cannot complain at all for AGA modes. But when changing screen mode to the BVision card The whole system freezes up. sometimes it can work for some minutes, once it worked for hours. But it always freezes, eventually... I have tried to change to another aga mode to check if there would be problems between super72 and the CGX mode... but nope... no matter what i use, it freezes up...

[krize]

Its the same problem I have had with my ppc + bvision also..

Have you flashed to the last update ?

[pyrre]

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Its the same problem I have had with my ppc + bvision also.. Have you flashed to the last update ?

No, not yet... I am awaiting the disk DCE is supposed to send me. When i got it i will see what is on it.
If it is the actual firmware upgrade that they say it is...
i will upgrade that first. then the flash...
(if the disk contains the flas, i guess it would be bad to flash twice...)

[Piru]

i guess it would be bad to flash twice

Um, why?





PS. Could you use the normal quoting rather than the "code" quoting? code quoting doesn't do automagic formatting and it screws up the page layout with long lines.

[Damion]

(if the disk contains the flas, i guess it would be bad to flash twice...)

Actually, not necessarily. It's a possibility that the data could be corrupted slightly, and a re-flash may be something to consider anyway. I've experienced a small number of strange and annoying HW issues that turned out to be a corrupted BIOS, cured by a re-flash. In my particular cases, all I could attribute the corruption to was (perhaps) an unnoticed amount of static discharge while working inside the case.

It's a long-shot, but worth a go IMO.

[pyrre]

Well... I don't know how BIOS works in detail.
But from using pc, and screwing up some of those BIOS.
I know that it would be bad to damage the BIOS.
and since it is very difficult to get a new PPC card and there is no more warranty. I just don't want to risk damaging it...

I bought this thing in 1998, and it was one of the first cards that came to Norway. The first card i ordered was a 060 240.
But it was DOA. an I got the 040 210 as a replacement.

[pyrre]

Is it possible to use picasso drivers for bvision card?
If so, where do i get those drivers?

[Piru]

@pyrre

Is it possible to use picasso drivers for bvision card?

What picasso drivers? (no)

[pyrre]

Picasso 96?