why are people asking for a port to PS3?

[eniac]

i am confused as to how a port to PS3 is going to save the platform. what am i going to do with it? browse the web? WOW your blowing my {bleep}ing mind away! how many people (per 1000 that purchase a PS3) are going to install another OS? out of that, how many are going to install amigaOS over linux? the answer to both is not many....To persuade people to install another OS there has to a reason apart from "look at my pimped out console". there really isnt a valid reason. just people starving for hardware.
Id love to have a chat with bill and fleecy....where do these {bleep}ers reside?
why are they holding on to these patents? they arnt making any money out of it.....is it just in case they do make some money in the future
whats going on with this discreet buyout?
argghhhh why cant they just tell us whats going on! there is only a few thousand of us left....we deserve to know, we so deserve to know......
 

Unfortunately, a lot of people, unlike you and me, perceive the Amiga to be strictly a game machine.

Sad days for our beloved system.

Concerning the patents holder for the Amiga intellectual property, I suppose they do like Microsoft... discontinue the old stuff AND prevent anyone from copying it to coherse everyone to purchase the latest version...

However, we know what most Amigans think of the latest Amiga...

[hooligan]

Some people would buy a Casio-wristwatch if it ran OS4, they are that desperate :-)

[nbarnes]

Hi eniac,

I'll tell you why (I am one of them).

If the Amiga is to THRIVE (rather than just linger on) it has to be available on a commonly available platform that has MASS APPEAL.

PS3 owners may get bored of playing games and want to DO SOMETHING with it. Do they really want to get to grips with the complexities of Linux? I don't think so (BTW, I'm a big Linux user at work so I know a bit about it).

Surely, AmigaOS on the PS3 would be FUN. Surely it would be powerful. It'd be an eye-opener for a whole new generation.

Amiga IS NOT going to gain popularity by only being available on obscure bits of expensive lashed together hardware from manufacturers that nobody has ever heard of. Why would anyone - except diehard Amigans - even consider spending hundreds of pounds/dollars/euros for a new Pc-like Amiga? Where's the incentive? It could well be an expensive error.

They MAY consider it if the OS is packed in the same way as a PS3 GAME (and sold in the same shops at a "game-like" price, just visualize it for a minute...). They THEN see what they can start doing with it and a new world opens up.

Truly, it's the only way.

Imagine, you buy a games console for £450 and then you get a powerful better-than-a-PC for £40. It'll take off, It will (honestly).
 
(I'll get off by soap box now).

[justthatgood]

Okay pessimistic reality check here.

Ain't going to happen. Too many people have stuck their dirty grubby hands in the Patent cookie jar. Everyone trying to get a piece of that sweet something, but most of the good stuff has been eaten already. What is left is stale.

[Matt_H]

@ nbarnes

Even assuming we could get past all the legal issues and actually get a port onto the PS3, who do you think would buy it? I doubt sales would be anywhere near as good as you'd hope.

The PS3's target market is teenage males who play games. Most of them probably haven't even heard of Linux or are even aware that it can be installed onto the machine. They bought their games console to play games, not revolutionize their desktop computing experience. And if the games work, why bother using AmigaOS as another layer between software and hardware? We all know from the classic days that you can get more power from banging the hardware than running through the OS.

Computer-like expandability for consoles has consistently failed. Direct-connect modems for the Gensis/Megadrive and SNES dropped off the market in less than 2 years. A full internet suite for the Sega Saturn failed to gain any momentum in the US and Japan, and was never even launched in Europe. In Japan, printers and floppy disk drives were available for the machine to allow the user to run a word processor, but has managed to hide under the radar. NetBSD ports to the Dreamcast never gained much popularity either.

AmigaOS is a unique system that needs its own hardware (whatever the hell that is) - piggybacking it on top of an established product is not going to help much. If you want to OEM PS3 boards in a computer case, there might be a better chance, but trying to appeal to the existing PS3 base is probably a futile effort.

And besides, in true Amiga curse fashion, the PS3 is selling rather abysmally (compared to predictions) in all territories. You know what'll happen - AmigaOS will be announced and ported, followed by Sony dissolving their games division. ;-)

[Tomas]

@eniac
It surely would not save Amiga, but it would be a very good thing for the existing Amigans to finally have some hardware to run it on. I myself however believe it is very far fetched and will never happen anyways. I would rather see it ported to x86 anyways..

[Vincent]

Matt_H wrote:
And besides, in true Amiga curse fashion, the PS3 is selling rather abysmally (compared to predictions) in all territories. You know what'll happen - AmigaOS will be announced and ported, followed by Sony dissolving their games division. ;-)

:lol: and I thought I was a pessimist!

[zyphoid]

if aos4.0 was announced to be ported to ps3, i would buy one tomorrow! That's how serious it is.  in short it would be a new amiga computer with modern hardware as in 3.5ghz moterola processor and later ports of newer OS5, ect.

[redrumloa]

This subject again? :crazy:

My $0.02 is it should be a no brainer, port to the damn thing and start making some money.

But... it aint gonna happen. OS4 is dead.

[Tigger]

eniac wrote:
i am confused as to how a port to PS3 is going to save the platform. what am i going to do with it? browse the web? WOW your blowing my {bleep}ing mind away! how many people (per 1000 that purchase a PS3) are going to install another OS? out of that, how many are going to install amigaOS over linux? the answer to both is not many....To persuade people to install another OS there has to a reason apart from "look at my pimped out console". there really isnt a valid reason.

They do the port, I've guaranteed a 1000 units of OS4 sold (after a year, I'll personally buy the difference) thats the best option they've had since I guaranteed 1000 units if they did the port to the PPC Mac years ago.  The PS3 is more powerful and in most cases cheaper then every other PPC option offered for OS4.  You'd be silly to run games on it in OS4 mode, looking at the software I wrote for the amiga, I think most realize I dont think of the amiga as a game machine, but the OS needs hardware, the last hardware for it was made almost 28 months ago, and the PS3 is fast hardware, easily available, full warranites and cheaper then an AmigaOne ever was and cheaper then Samantha, Panda or Megetherium ever will be.
      -Tig

[Kronos]

Matt_H wrote:


The PS3's target market is teenage males who play games.

This might be true if and when the prices drop, but atm the average age is surely over 20.

There aren't that many parents make such expensive gift, and there are next to no teenager actually earning that kind of money themselves (well atleast not legally  :-o ).

Would it make sense ? Well lets say sales would be a little less marginal as they would be bundled with usual range of vaporware.....

[Homer]

Whatever happened to Starke ?

[nbarnes]

Sales may not be as much as we'd hope...but...there would be sales (as opposed to now). This could also work for Sony. If they are not selling as many PS3's as they thought then maybe, just maybe, something like OS4 would certainly help.
There must be THOUSANDS of people like me who haven't used Amigas for YEARS who would DEFINITELY by a PS3 if they could run something with "Amiga" written on it!

Then you have the teenage kids with aspirations to write games on a PS3...if Sony have flagging sales "all" they have to do is open up the Hardware to OS4 (or 5?) and then you have a market for THOUSANDS of coders and potential top-notch game developers.

Sony could even run competitions where the most promising "home grown" games/utilities are developed into commercial products (although they could probably do this without Os4)

Sony's got nothing to lose, Hyperion and Amiga Inc have nothing to lose and everything to gain. There would even be a built-in upgrade path (the PS5!).

Whatever anybody says, this is a beautiful solution...IF it could be made to work. Failing this, what do we have left?

Where is the incentive for ANYONE (outside of headcase amigans and a few hobbyists) to spend serious money for a new PC with OS4 on it? It's too niche market (hence expensive and dead-end).

I'm 42.

[a1200]

PLEASE NO! Not on amiga.org as well! I think I will ban word PS3 on 3cag.net in case it makes it to there too.