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Originally Posted by PhantomWolf View Post
How about explosives, then?
Fine, how about explosives. How many non-terrorist bombings have there been in the US that have been that have taken lives? (why non-terrorist, because your average postal worker/schoolkid/mall attacker isn't generally a terrorist.) Over here we've had one bombing, back in the 60's.
DOOM, if what you say about criminals being unable to access guns so easily is right, then why do you feel you have to have a gun for self-defence? If burglars breaking in are rare, why do you have a loaded gun next to the bed? Surely you have it there because you feel unsafe, isn't that true? Essentially you seem to be claiming that the odds of being attacked are low, and yet the very act of having a loaded weapon would indicate to me otherwise. Which is it, is it unlikely you will be attacked in which case a loaded gun is unnecessary, or do you think you will need it, in which case surely your society has a serious problem that needs fixing. By the way, shooting a burglar over here would get you a one way trip to Jail unless he was armed with a weapon and actively threatening your life, or the life of another.
The odds of being attacked are low, where I currently live. But low is not the same as non-existent. I've already told you I've had to use a firearm for self-defense, which shows that it can be necessary. I'd rather be safe than sorry.
This doesn't show a problem with society at all. You seem to be saying that because I feel the need to have a firearm for self defense and that you don't, the society I live in is inferior to yours. This is ridiculous. There are criminals in any society. If you don't feel you need a firearm for self defense, that's fine. I'm not saying you have to have one. But you seem to think you can tell me that I can't have one based on your feelings. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
You don't know me, nor do you know anything about me. I could be in a wheelchair, unable to effectively defend myself against an intruder. Or I could just be someone that knows the effectiveness of firearms in a self defense situation, regardless of whether I'm incapacitated in some manner, or a 250 pound body builder that could easily subdue most unarmed people with just physical force alone (in reality, I'm neither, I'm a 165 pound, healthy male, but I do know very well that firearms ARE the best form of self defense).
And since I have no intention of using my firearms for illegal purposes, there is no reasonable objection to my having them. IF, and only if, I ever used them in an illegal capacity, or did a crime that would invalidate me for owning a firearm, should they be taken away from me.
As for if a burglar does break into my home, I can shoot him regardless of whether he is an active threat or not. Illinois law regarding firearms may be ignorant and anti-gun, but IL self-defense laws are actually very good. There is no requirement in IL statutes that requires a person acting in self-defense while inside their residence to be in mortal danger. The act of breaking into a home in IL is considered enough in that regard.
So, you've not demonstrated anything here other than you don't like the society I live in and that you don't like firearms (and that you don't know the laws in my state regarding self defense, but that's no surprise, you don't live here and I'm not going to hold that one against you). Neither of these are reasons to infringe on my RIGHT to own a firearm and use it for self defense. And remember, both of these things are RIGHTS were I live, not privileges.
This can be found here
http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?p=905824#post905824P.S. their's plenty of other posts by him as well, I've always got a kick outta this gut he's emailed me and was a cool dude, but I'm sure he's a wack job just like me...but with different weaknesses. I've never found it necessary to rip people off I actually take pride in arriving at a fair deal that is cool for both people strickly for KARMA's sake, I mean have some AMIGA gear and live another life or not have AMIGA gear and get to die....I take death.
Anyway happy Good Friday
