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Re: Non-Amiga geeks make a boo boo
« Reply #44 from previous page: March 28, 2007, 09:23:28 PM »
    I just got on this thread . Sorry to hear your problem.   I live in Fredonia (that's only 26 miles away ) and would be happy to help.  I've had Amigas since '87 so I might be able to help resurect your data.  Give me a pm .
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Re: Non-Amiga geeks make a boo boo
« Reply #45 on: March 28, 2007, 09:58:25 PM »
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    I just got on this thread . Sorry to hear your problem.   I live in Fredonia (that's only 26 miles away ) and would be happy to help.  I've had Amigas since '87 so I might be able to help resurect your data.  Give me a pm .
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Re: Non-Amiga geeks make a boo boo
« Reply #46 on: March 28, 2007, 10:06:03 PM »
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Am I the only one who uses HDx: for my partitions?

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Well, in my pre 3.0 OS's, I used DHx, and after I've named them HDx's.
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Re: Non-Amiga geeks make a boo boo
« Reply #47 on: March 28, 2007, 11:29:18 PM »
Just a thought, but rather than messing around with creating partitions, or overwriting the old (partly formatted) partition to restore the data from the archive you could try the following.

1) unarchive the latest backup to a directory on an existing partition (for example "DH2:mydirectory").
2) type into the command line "assign main: dh2:mydirectory"

This fools the computer into thinking that there is a drive called "main". When you call anything on the "main" drive (for example "execute main:anydirectoryname/myexampleprogram" the amiga OS will look for it in "DH2:mydirectory/anydirectoryname/myexampleprogram"

If you manage to unpack your archived data this will at least let you test that everything is present and in the right place without you having to create partitions, format hard drives, etc

Regarding your comments on having to recreate the directory structure - any decent archiving program will have preserved this within the packed file. You should just have to unpack the archive and it will create all the directories etc for you.

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Re: Non-Amiga geeks make a boo boo
« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2007, 12:37:47 AM »
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Re: Non-Amiga geeks make a boo boo
« Reply #49 on: March 29, 2007, 12:46:31 AM »
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jbuonacc wrote:
level stuff as i go (i *did* find formatting a floppy pretty intuitive though ;-)). i've seen a C64 user or two from


I think most of us, even at the age of 8-20 found formatting a floppy on the Amiga QUITE intuitive :-)

Hell, it sure beat the crap out of formatting with DOS or Windoze 3.x!

Any dumb ones in here who had problems in their teen years with Amiga floppies?? :-D
 

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Re: Non-Amiga geeks make a boo boo
« Reply #50 on: March 29, 2007, 01:43:09 AM »
 :roflmao: Sorry, I thought the whole thing was kind of funny.
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Re: Non-Amiga geeks make a boo boo
« Reply #51 on: March 29, 2007, 07:12:44 AM »
Edited by Argo : Personal Attack.

Be nice! Argo
 

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Re: Non-Amiga geeks make a boo boo
« Reply #52 on: March 29, 2007, 07:25:21 AM »
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 :roflmao: Sorry, I thought the whole thing was kind of funny.


actually, yes, this is all quite hilarious. wish we had a video of it all going down. the church folk probably crapped themselves.
 

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Re: Non-Amiga geeks make a boo boo
« Reply #53 on: March 29, 2007, 07:48:13 AM »
>The thing that concerns me along these lines is that when we've tried to open a few of the backup files, an error was presented that said something like \main\xyz could not be found.

Nonsense, Amiga pathnames don't look anything like that.

>Even Commodore 64 had drives A, B, and C.

You're talking complete crap. Stop lying.
 

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Re: Non-Amiga geeks make a boo boo
« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2007, 02:58:09 PM »
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motorollin wrote:
Am I the only one who uses HDx: for my partitions?

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nope. 1st time I did a HDD for myself, I used that, then later on when dealing with multiple volumes, would use a format like my current MDH0: but I guess I've been using HDD capable Amigas for long enough now, and added to that my age, I tended to just find that DH0: ran off the tongue more easily than HD0: jus' ockud I guess!
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Re: Non-Amiga geeks make a boo boo
« Reply #55 on: March 29, 2007, 03:16:25 PM »
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RoseDreamJ wrote:But the number of files that we saw within one of the backup drawers was pretty small...perhaps 25 at the most.  Some of the backups are dated, however...like fileABC2001, fileABC2002, etc.  Yet, the size of the partition we hosed was only 39.6 megs.  So, perhaps we're still ok.

Forget absolutely everything you know about Windows file sizes.  Amigas can happily work away with word processing/spreadsheets etc with only a 10MB hard drive or even from just a few 880k floppies :-D

Good luck with getting everything back up and running.

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Re: Non-Amiga geeks make a boo boo
« Reply #56 on: March 29, 2007, 07:22:50 PM »
1st I must say to my Windows Friend trying to use Amiga:

DON'T PANIC!

The most of the errors you can do on Amiga are sure recoverable...

Take a breath, and keep listen...


1) Now I read some comments above that you have a DH2:???? icon on the desktop... IS THAT CORRECT?

{Please answer this question first)

This means that you corrupted the Hard Disk partition because it is now formatted incomplete...

To save files on it it could be necessary to use programs such as DiskSalv...

But as I said previous DON'T PANIC!


2) Seems to me that system boots quite well, so Partitions DH0: and DH1: should be unharmed... IS THAT CORRECT?

{Please answer this question second)


3) Your system boots correctly?

{Please answer this question third)



4) A little simple reminder:


Usually Amiga uses DH0: as primary HDD partition:


5) SYS:

It is the device who made the boot (It could be either one floppy, one CD, or one HD)

You can access boot device by referring as SYS:


6) Amiga uses slash as in Internet/Linux.

"/"


7) While Windows uses the slash BEFORE ANY DIRECTORY, Amiga have no need of it on the first branch directory...

Windows:

C:\Windows
C:\Windows\System

Amiga:

SYS:Prefs
SYS:Prefs/Storage


8)Accessing directories in various ways:

DH0:C
SYS:C
Workbench:C
C:

These syntax examples usually refers to the same directory of commands...


9) Any Directory in Amiga could became a DEVICE. Main directory are ALREADY addresses as they were virtual devices, so you can access it IMMEDIATELY.

C:

It is the absolute path for directory of Amiga-DOS commands used by keyboard based GUI console (CLI or SHELL).

Yes! You can referring to main directories of Amiga as they were DEVICES.


10) Have you seen this utility directory somewhere on the Hard disk?

If this exists, you can easily transfer files from any directory, or device to another:

Directory OPUS or DirOPUS





(Please answer this question fourth)


11) Amiga Floppy Disks.

Amiga acess normal DOUBLE SIDED DOUBLE DENSITY Floppy disks of 3,5 inches.

While MS-DOS format it at 720KB, Amiga gains some more kilobytes and format it at 880KB.

This is due to the fact Amiga stores on DD Amiga floppy disks 512 bytes/sector 11 Sectors/track 2 sides 80 cylinders.

So Amiga disks could be loaded with more DATA than a normal PC disk.

You can access even 720KB formatted PC disks because Amiga have a total control over motorsteps of Floppy read/write header.

PC disks are accessed thanks an utility called CROSS-DOS

Amigas usually are equipped only with DOUBLE DENSITY floppy drives, so you can't use 1,44 MB PC formatted floppies.


11) To format a FLOPPY Disk:


A) Check that there are no floppies in any drive.


B)insert disk you want to format in the floppy driver.


C) Check the new icon of Disk that will appear dinamically on the desktop window


D) Click on it with RIGHT MOUSEBUTTON

(PLEASE CLICK JUST ONLY ON THE FLOPPY DISK-LIKE ICON THAT JUST APPEARED.

YOU CAN SPOT IT BECAUSE IT APPEARS DINAMYCALLY WHEN THE DISK WAS INSERTED)!

E) New floppy icon should be usually named DF0:????

(Note the four "?" in the name)

F) Choice FORMAT from the Pull down menu


G) Follow progress bar indicator


H) DONE!

Now you have a floppy disk formatted to transfer any kind of data between the two Amigas in the church...
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Re: Non-Amiga geeks make a boo boo
« Reply #57 on: March 29, 2007, 07:58:35 PM »
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Minuous wrote:
>The thing that concerns me along these lines is that when we've tried to open a few of the backup files, an error was presented that said something like \main\xyz could not be found.

Nonsense, Amiga pathnames don't look anything like that.


Maybe he has been working with Rational Clearcase too much.

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>Even Commodore 64 had drives A, B, and C.

You're talking complete crap. Stop lying.


True but better is to correct him. C64 has devices accessable by number. Device 8 - 12 usually refer to diskdrives. Within this device you could target units but I have not seen this used ever.

So be a windows-geek but be carefull making statements about commodores here. You are in the lions den ;-)
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Re: Non-Amiga geeks make a boo boo
« Reply #58 on: March 29, 2007, 10:37:24 PM »
>Device 8 - 12 usually refer to diskdrives.

I think it's 8-11, for the four possible floppy drives?
 

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Re: Non-Amiga geeks make a boo boo
« Reply #59 on: March 30, 2007, 08:04:09 AM »
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>Device 8 - 12 usually refer to diskdrives.

I think it's 8-11, for the four possible floppy drives?

8-11 are the adresses usable for standard Commodore diskdrives such as the 1541 (including -C and -II), the 1570, 1571, 1581 (and some other, lesser known) drives and that's because they only have two jumpers for controlling the drivenumber. If you use something like a CMD Ramlink or CMD Harddrive, you can happily use higher drivenumbers such as 12, 13 etc.

In my current C128-setup, I use two 1571's, an FD2000, a Ramlink and a CMD Harddrive, which can all be used simultaneously with drivenumbers 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12.

To slightly add to the confusion concerning drivenumbers on Commodores: GEOS and its upgrade Wheels use driveletters (A, B, C, D) thus more resembling a pc.

But this is going offtopic.
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