eslapion wrote:
Bite on! I never said the Amiga architecture isn't a great thing... I just don't sleep with it...
I bit and enjoyed the skewering. Just to inform you: none of us here sleeps with them either.
eslapion wrote:
Be sure to use as many * as you can when you talk to me. I love it! :-D
They're free for people like you. I'm glad you're loving it, just like you love trashing Amigas. Otherwise you'd break your stereotype.
I'm also glad you're finally getting some attention, because if you enjoy *s so much then you must be not getting enough at home... or you're a sadomachochist.
eslapion wrote:
BTW, I don't see anyone else throwing insults at me. And it
Hint: that doesn't mean they don't want to ;-) Also, people commented similarly to your threats of trashing Amiga gear. Read the pertinent threads.
eslapion wrote:
so happens that I still have and use a good bunch of Amiga computers. I just don't use them professionnaly anymore because there is no money to be made with them for electrical engineers doing power electronics.
Who said anything about using them professionally or not? It's understandable that they're not as "useful" professionally, primarily due to lack of support and software. Duh.
eslapion wrote:
There is still some money to be made in some niche fields, perhaps. At least there are people willing to pay for a browser.
O.T.
eslapion wrote:
I feel a computer is a means to an end, it should never be the end itself. That's what Apple, IBM and all the PC clone makers understood and that's why both Commodore and Atari lost the markets war.
Things aren't so simplistic. If you knew anything about Apple you wouldn't have said that. You don't think that various socio-economic events played big roles in the outcome of today's computer industry?
Here's another take on why things ended up being the way they are, which is certainly much more plausible than yours:
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM/1350A705-DE80-429A-BDC0-AE9272C1555E.html
eslapion wrote:
I don't think I have a gray matter problem because I don't
Oh, but you've demonstrated it admirably by not replying to what's been discussed.
eslapion wrote:
like it when people tell me what I should do or not do with what I own and call me names because I am sick and tired of keeping old junk.
JESUS man, how thick are you? Neither I nor anyone ever told you what to do with your junk! We just said to not tell us you're trashing it, in such a way that coerces us or someone to have to save it by either spending more money than they can, or doing whatever your terms are to avoid the catastrophe. Because if they fail to do so, it will only fill them with pain and anguish, seeing how their beloved computers are being trashed, AND FOR THE LAST TIME: BECAUSE YOU'RE ON AN AMIGA-FAN BOARD. If you were doing that in an XYZ newsgroup, fine, but you're doing it on Amiga.org. HOMIE DON'T LIKE DAT! You might not see it, but it's certainly not appreciated here. That is and was the whole fscking point. Now please prove to us that you've got some gray matter still left and finally confirm that you undertand this point.
eslapion wrote:
I don't feel the need to throw insults at you either. And
Of course not, because what I say represents most closely how many Amiga fans feel.
eslapion wrote:
no... it is not a personnal matter, it is a money matter.
Yes, we understand you're vain.
eslapion wrote:
And that's why commodore failed in 1994, they had "Couldn't be Bothered Marketing" (CBM) and saw the machine as a form of holy grail instead of a tool to earn a living with.
Ummm, no. CBM was run by a bunch of incompetent and money hungry marketdroids/managedroids and they probably had NO idea how much of a Holy Grail their Amiga and Commodore computers were. Read:
http://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/ckb/secret/They did suck at marketing and ALL they did was think about the money (that's why they MILKED the C64 and Amiga models to death, and never brought on any newer and more powerful machines, thus having the Amiga fall behind the PCs by the end of 1993). The failure was BECAUSE OF THINKING OF MONEY. If they cherished the Amiga and saw its potential (and of course used some proper business methods and tactics), the whole world would be running Amigas right now.
And to add to that, what is SO GREAT about the companies you mentioned? Like IBM? They've got pretty much NO personal computers left to sell. The last of it, the Thinkpad division was sold to Lenovo, a Chinese company. And frankly, they have NOTHING great! I never liked any of their stuff (personal computers we're talking about), and I doubt anyone will ever claim greatness on their behalf.
Now Apple on the other hand, which is the prime example of idolizing one's machines (surely you must have noticed that a Mac isn't "just" a computer), they seem to be doing fairly well, as in doubling and tripling their profits and their computer sales.
eslapion wrote:
If a computer is not a tool then it is a TOY! At least Nintendo, Sony and the new incarnation of Commodore assume what they are. Only programmers and game maker use a PS3 or a Wii to earn money.
Right...
eslapion wrote:
The second there will be money to be made with the Amiga, I'll be back creating stuff on and for it. Why do you think
You and the rest of the unfaithful. Glad to have you around when the going gets tough... You fully realize the proper word for these people is: opportunists. Right? And the antonym is friend.
eslapion wrote:
all the companies that were there in the Amiga market in the early 90's have gone? Because they didn't like the machine?
Ummm, they were opportunists? And they were also NOT Amiga fans (by their right). And actually many of the companies did like the Amiga, for what it was (search around and you'll find many commenting on the greatness of the machine and the technologies therein), but money was their primary factor and concern, as they were businesses and not individuals.
eslapion wrote:
Of course not. Everybody has to earn a living... maybe you don't.
Nobody argued this. Everybody needs to make money, and they don't need to use an Amiga. In fact, nobody in these threads ever advocated having to use one to make a living. Only you seem to feel so. Finally, there's always ways to make money, it takes something called creativity.
eslapion wrote:
So, as a matter of fact, a looooot of "lost sheep" (if PP&S, Gold Disk, GVP, RCS Management and ASDG are lost sheep... among others) have left both you and your Amigas very much alone...
They have left indeed, and I personally don't blame them one bit, because they NEVER claimed they were doing it for the Amiga and what it stood for, but for money, and they certainly NEVER came to this forum pretending to be Amiga fans. Duh.
eslapion wrote:
It is people who see a platform as a source of money who create the greatest things for it. Unless you have a bunch of welfare recipients willing to work on the next accelerator or display card...
Yes, sure: money is the prime factor for making the "greatest things". Hah! If you only knew of the arts, and of all the people called artists and how they create things (from demoscene kids to game creators to painters and graphicians to musicians and theatrical actors and performers, to engineers, etc). But what would you know about creativity? You probably like being told what to do at work, right? Instead of, god forbid, doing some creative thinking... Surely that's all speculative on my end, but that's what one can infer by your tone and verbage, especially when you seem to throw around money as if it's the panacea of the world's drabness and mediocrity.
eslapion wrote:
Rage all you want! It's entertaining!
... now should I use this smiley ? :lol:
Ignorance is bliss I guess :-) (there's my smiley) You must be a lucky guy, eSLAPion!
