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Mp3 decode on MC680x0
« on: June 10, 2003, 09:55:27 PM »
Anyone remember what the minimum spec is for mp3 decoding on the 680x0 family. Was thinking about making me a portable mp3 player for flash media.
already have the source for a mp3 decoder for 680x0 so it shouldn't be to much trouble.
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Re: Mp3 decode on MC680x0
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2003, 10:10:48 PM »
Why don“t use a hardware mp3 decoder instead?

Here is a link to a similar project: yammp
 

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Re: Mp3 decode on MC680x0
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2003, 10:12:56 PM »
My old 50Mhz 68030 could just about do it, but you'd probably need a 68040.

It would be cheaper and easier to use a specific MP3 decoder chip; you just feed mp3 data in one end and get audio data out the other. You can use any cheap CPU (PIC, for example) to feed it data and check for user input.
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Re: Mp3 decode on MC680x0
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2003, 10:17:43 PM »
My 25Mhz 68040 has problems trying to play mp3's but it can do it... my 50Mhz 68030 simply can't do it real time.

So I would say the 040 is the lowest spec for mp3 decoding.... but we all know how hot and hungry they are, so you might want to look at a Coldfire... but that's another thread.  :-D

ON the other hand, if you know 68K asm, simply rewrite what you have for a CPU much more suited to the mobile environment... it you want to do it cheap, might I suggest a microcontroler and a DSP combo, that would give the best characteristics for an mp3 player.... I suggest you choose a microcontroller which supports Compact Flash so that you can use cheap removable memory cards.

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Re: Mp3 decode on MC680x0
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2003, 10:19:50 PM »
My 030 @ 40Mhz is about the lowest spec that'll do it real time, but the quality is terrible.  As people have pointed out, a hardware decoder would be much better - for a start you wouldn't have to build your own portable computer to run it on!

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Re: Mp3 decode on MC680x0
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2003, 10:23:10 PM »
My old 040/33MHz could do it but I had to half the bitstream rate. My 060 can do it without skipping any data, but I had then got a Delfina Plus and used it's processor until the thing broke. (left speaker output is dead and I get no response to emails I send to Petsoff asking about a repair)
I wouldn't go with anything below 060 as the 040 may need to sacrafice quality in order to avoid choppy/skippy playback.
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Re: Mp3 decode on MC680x0
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2003, 10:26:04 PM »
Thanks all for the feedback.
Guess it'll be easier with some yampp, and no Blodline, no Coldfire :-D Think it is a processor to fill the gap between PPC and MC68x that came to late.
Anyways, Thanks.
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Re: Mp3 decode on MC680x0
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2003, 10:32:10 PM »
The MASplayer can decode MP3's even with a 68000 processor. It has a MPEP decoder chip on it.

Try to buy a MASplayer from Eyetech or build it yourself. You can find it on
http://home.snafu.de/dcr/mpeg_hardware.html
 

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Re: Mp3 decode on MC680x0
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2003, 11:43:56 PM »
Hardware decoders are very limited. They don't return decoded data to the Amiga for players, etc. In fact, the effect of one is nothing much more than buying a portable MP3 player and plugging it into your soundcard.
 

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Re: Mp3 decode on MC680x0
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2003, 11:49:31 PM »
@KennyR
If you had bothered to read the inital posting you would see that it was a portable player he intended to make.
 

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Re: Mp3 decode on MC680x0
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2003, 12:00:32 AM »
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If you had bothered to read the inital posting you would see that it was a portable player he intended to make.


I know, I did read it. I was answering you, not him. My point: mpeg hw decoders on an Amiga are too limited.
 

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Re: Mp3 decode on MC680x0
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2003, 12:17:24 AM »
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Re: Mp3 decode on MC680x0
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2003, 12:24:00 AM »
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Re: Mp3 decode on MC680x0
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2003, 12:54:15 AM »
@KennyR
Sorry. It can sometimes be confusing to see who you address when you don't use @.
btw. I think you were answering amiga1260, not me, as it was he (or she?) who mentioned the amiga solution (MASPlayer).
 
 

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Re: Mp3 decode on MC680x0
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2003, 12:59:35 AM »
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