Save AmigaOS! I can't be bothered.

[Tomas]

itix wrote:
@Seehund

Aint 1500 signatures quite pathetic?

200+ or so just in one day pathetic considering that it was only posted on a couple of amiga forums? I dont think so..

[sir_inferno]

itix wrote:
@Seehund

Aint 1500 signatures quite pathetic?

that's about the number of people globally interested in amiga inc's current products  :-)

[Starrunner]

I have to do it:

Can't we all just get along?  You Burt Bacharach has that song, 'What the World Needs Now'

Sigh...If we could only put all this energy into doing something with Amiga in some form.  Then we would possibly have something.  But in the end we could all say we tried and did our best.

[m0ns00n]

Problem is, many don't see that AROS _is_ this effort. The Amiga users owning their platform. What some don't see is that helping the scoundrals who currently own Amiga is counter productive, while a "take the matter in your own hands" initiative like AROS was started a decade ago. Perhaps those who hate or deny the success of AROS just are too proud, and can't leave their pride behind cuz they invested too much of their private time in it.

The main point with AROS is that it's for people who are tired of gambling with their future investments in money and time. AROS won't go belly-up anytime soon, as it is controlled by idealism not money. And those who think that money will free the world - well, they need to take another look at the world, or join scientology. =)

[humppa]

Problem is, many don't see that AROS _is_ this effort.

I see it as a HUGE effort, honestly. Only thing what might keep some from honouring the effort appropriately is that AROS still can't keep them (non-Coder's) busy for a longer period of time. AROS is _nice_ but it still doesn't feel "cozy". Yes, Lunapaint _is_ a great app and there would be many others to mention, but my point is that I only think that many will switch to AROS once it has a proper browser.
Another possibility is that the horse is not only rotting and smelling, but completely turned to dust. Otherwise the majority of Amigans will keep on clinging to some odd hope. After all, that's what they did the last 13 years.  :lol:

[gertsy]

Can't we all just get along?  You Burt Bacharach has that song, 'What the World Needs Now'

But even Burt split up with Hal David.  
Nothing wrong with robust debate, as long as everybody chips in when someone has a techie question. Which they do.
Viva la difference.
 ;-)

[Starke]

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[pixie]

I still think eventually if everyone did support AROS that there will no longer be Amiga OS's or anything Amiga period, so Im against the idea!

There's nothing stopping one company from picking AROS up...

[Starke]

@sir_inferno:

Not true, firstly, this is only posted on two forums.

Secondly, there are many that are interested, but they may not agree to the petition!

Thirdly, did you sign it???

Fourthly, assuming you singed it, get all your friends and family to sign it also, just because they care about you!

Cheers!!

And lets get the numbers up! 8-)  8-)

[Starke]

@Pixie:

Now thats the best suggestion Ive heard/over about AROS!

Good on you!!

Portugal man huh, well, no wonders your mind has so much clarity!

Cheers!! 8-)  :roll:  :-P  :-)  :-D  :-o

[Starke]

Edited by Argo: Personal Attack

[Starke]

Edited by Argo: Personal Attack

[humppa]

@Starke

Did you already buy an A2000 from RetroGeek? He's selling only top-quality milspec hardware. :-D

[Crumb]

@itix

Aint 1500 signatures quite pathetic?

isn't that the current number of A1 users?

or the number of MorphOS users?

The number of signatures is proportional to the size of the community interested in AmigaOS (and similar systems).



@AROS haters

AROS is OK, the only thing it lacks is 680x0 compatibility. The problem is that some loonies think that double clicking an adf and launching UAE is the same than launching IBrowse and using your native x86 datatypes, your native x86 tcp/ip stack, your native Zune, etc...

A big-endian AROS for x86 running on top of Linux (like amithlon did) would be the best solution since AROS (or any AmigaOS or AmigaOS clone) won't be able to compete with mainstream OSes like Linux/Windows/OSX and the performance hit wouldn't be too big. If AROS ran my PPC and 68k binaries I wouldn't care that it run at 50% the speed of a little endian AROS. Since AROS has no apps compared to AmigaOS3 and AmigaOS4/MorphOS/OS3/OS4 are just hobby systems, the most important thing for me is compatibility.

The ones that are seeking a revolutionary OS in AROS have choose a difficult starting point... why choose an OS3.x API and restrict yourself to a mono-user single memory space non-posix API? Linux or BSD kernels are far more powerful.

Classic Amiga is just a hobby now. OS4 is just a hobby. MOS is just a hobby. AROS is just a hobby. Enjoy your hobby and don't care about what other people do.

[Waccoon]

The problem with AROS is that it's trying to clone what OS3.1 did and improve it.  That's OK if you want to port old Amiga software to new hardware, but there's not an overwhelming amount of open-source Amiga software to go around, and few people know (or like) to work with and around the Amiga's old limitations.

The only realistic solution is to start with a brand new OS and make it work like an Amiga.

Unfortunately, everything I've seen so far is either too dependent on Linux (bash and X-Windows are the first things running), or they are too focused on technology and not function, so the whole graphics system may be rewritten, but all the shell commands and GUI menus work like a Linux system.  Linux people know nothing about proper interface design.

Isn't anyone really interested in experimenting, anymore?  Don't people want to fix major limitations with existing OSes, like the lack of standard text encoding and filesystem-based networking, so we no longer need FTP?  The Amiga desktop philosophy is largely distant from all these technical quibbles.

Syllable looks promising as far as an Amiga clone is concerned, but the GUI is pretty awful, and their design goals are unabashedly indescript.  They're trying too hard to make it simple and they're not focused on solving real problems -- much like AROS and OS4.

Edit:  Oh yeah, I just tried the latest LiveCD of Syllable.  I still won't boot even in SAFE MODE.  All I get is a Blue Screen of Perpetual Loading, constantly barfing out heap expansion errors.  I guess it's a good thing it's hard-coded in x86 assembler, huh?

[TheMagicM]

@TheMagicM:

TheMagicMother, how are ya?

Nice to know that you made it to being a moderator, especially with that negative comment, I geuss you havent signed the petition, so what makes us users know that your actually for Amiga, and not for Microsoft??

@Stork:

Its not negative, its reality.  It hasnt hit you yet.  Just a FYI, the x86 based PC has broken the 100mhz barrier many years ago.  Just because I'm a moderator doesnt mean I have to be a backer of Amiga Inc.  

..anyway..back to drag racing..  

-Alex