Future AmigaOS GUI

[mikeymike]

What do "21st Century icons" look like?

I quite like the new OS4 screenshots.  They're not super-exciting admittedly, but then come on!  This is the Amiga community we're talking about!  The amount of bizarre themes you guys use, why do you care?  You're going ot customise it, just like I will!

I just hope OS4 is as responsive as its predecessors.

[meerschaum]

MOS looks modern... this mockup it looks modern...the AOS4 shots? the icons are old fashioned...the should hire a graphics designer to make them some icons...

[amimonkey]

There's just no pleasing some people is there?

1. The new look is only about 80% complete - this has been said many times.

2. Ever heard of THEMES - if you don't like the look then change it.

Ian

[alx]

Can everyone remember that the big changes in the GUI will be coming in later versions of the OS - but the features already in (ie the gradient/bitmap skinning) are great.  I personally think that the OS4.x team should be looking at new ways of doing things like viewing folders instead of parroting windoze like Linux desktops.  The big changes in functionality can only come with a new WB.

Besides, I like the default theme :-D

[Bodie]

Like Zudobug, I would like to see a ¨hyperion os dev team¨ theme  :-) .

[uncharted]

meerschaum wrote:
MOS looks modern... this mockup it looks modern...the AOS4 shots? the icons are old fashioned...the should hire a graphics designer to make them some icons...

I'm gonna be blunt here.

MOS by default looks ####.

The icons are overstyled overrendered rubbish.  I spent 5 mins trying to work out what the hell some of the icons on MOS were trying to be when I tried a Pegasos out.

In fact the best looking Ambient screenshot I've yet seen has ripped MacOS X icons.

Matt Chaputt and Mason have created some beautiful, practical icons over the years, that's why I'm glad Glowicons has stayed in here (and Mason has provided icons for AROS)

But then again lets face it:- It's AmigaOS to you just HAVE to slag it off.

[uncharted]

alx wrote:
Can everyone remember that the big changes in the GUI will be coming in later versions of the OS - but the features already in (ie the gradient/bitmap skinning) are great.  

I can recall a little while ago people cooing over the latest MUI shots with the gradients.  Making out as if this made MUI the most beautiful GUI in the universe.  Well guys AOS 4 has it by default too. (and Zune got it like a day later :-) )

BTW speaking of MUI did anyone else notice in the pic with the MUI prefs there was somthing that looked like a windows style menu within the window? That ain't right!!!

[masc]

BTW speaking of MUI did anyone else notice in the pic with the MUI prefs there was somthing that looked like a windows style menu within the window? That ain't right!!!

Eye, I hate that on windows, waste of space and adds more clutter.  Thankfully looking at the prefs that appears to be changable.

[zacman]

>BTW speaking of MUI did anyone else notice in the
>pic with the MUI prefs there was somthing that
>looked like a windows style menu within the
>window? That ain't right!!!

That's nothing new. That's just a MUI 3.9 feature and
known for over two years now (if you had installed
the MUI PPC version for MorphOS 0.4 two years ago).

You can attach the menu where ever you want to the
window and if you don't like it you can turn it off.

[uncharted]

Hello SimoAmi,

Looking great as always :-D  It'd be nice if you could provide some graphical sparkle to AOS.

Just a little constuctive critisism :-) :-

The screen titlebar is way too cluttered, it should be simpler maybe just a clock and a screen gadget.  OS X keeps it's menubar very simple with only a couple of items for example

I'm sorry, but I don't like the icons too much, although they are much nicer than the ones posted before.  It'd be cool if you could hook up with Matt or Mason and throw some ideas about.  I love glowicons, but there is always foom for that little extra sheen. :-D

I don't think that HTML shell would be a good idea.  This may sound old fashioned but, fixed-width clear font is the way to go.

The gadgets are just amazing :-) However, the tabs don't look like they are connected to the object they are tabbing.  Also the window scrollbars look out of place compared to everything else.  Replacing them with the scrollbars used on the other gadgets would solve this.  I'd also have a continuous progress bar as well as the range on non-continuous progress bars you have designed (if only for the sake of compatibilty)

Also don't forget that OS 4.0 is a limited release and some of the concepts here would require a lot of re-working (and would also probably break older software- for example stuff that expects window borders)

Otherwise it's amazing.  Although everytime I look it does remind me of winXP slighty and I'm not sure why.

[uncharted]

zacman wrote:

That's nothing new. That's just a MUI 3.9 feature and
known for over two years now (if you had installed
the MUI PPC version for MorphOS 0.4 two years ago).

You can attach the menu where ever you want to the
window and if you don't like it you can turn it off.

Ah cool, although not something I'd ever use.

[HotRod]

I don't get it?! Why are some people moaning over the grey colour??? "It's grey, it's grey, oh my god, it's grey!" ;-)

How hard is it to remove the background picture and change it to white, and voila, you got Workbench XP ;-) .

Then I guess you want unselected windows to have a lighter blue colour too. Well that is really something that is hard to change.

And why not copy the default background-picture from XP too. There are really some xp-gadgets that can be used.

Blah... I think there's to much complaining going on.

And no, I don't think that this picture is perfect either even if some elements looks good. You just can't satisfy everyone. They made AOS 4 look like AOS 3.x with a modern style still very configurable. What is so wrong about that?

I don't think that the ex-amiga-friends of mine would have liked WB more if it looks like a completely new system. It would have the opposit effect. They like AOS and remembers it from OS 3.0/3.1. If it looks like Linux or something completely different they certenly won't be intrested.

I love the way AOS looks, even though OS 3.9 looks oldish. AOS 4.0 looks great in the default look (yes, my opinion offcourse). :-)

[PMC]

Me like!  How about a BisualPrefs compatible theme?

Yes please!
:-)

[mdwh2]

teotwin wrote:
4. My proudest idea is also the visually smallest one. The super gadget replaces all of the resize, maximise, minimise, move to front/back buttons on windows. The idea is that the different click you can do on it will perform all of the same functions, i.e:

I think the fact that it's visually the smallest one is a problem - what happens when it's covered by another window? At the least, it should be possible to move a window to front by clicking anywhere on a window (preferably with a doubleclick - I can't stand Windows' single-click-to-front). And being able to resize on any boundary is useful too (as someone else says, for situations whether the window is partly off-screen - talking of which, is it known if this will be possible in OS4?)

And I think menus at the top of the screen are better than within windows (it's quicker and easier to shoot the mouse to the top of the screen than it is to guide it in to menus attached to windows).

[Opi-Poi]

I love both SimoAmi's and Teowin's work.

They would be great as OS4 presets.
Though I think it would be for 4.1 , as 4.0
seems very close to completion.

Hyperion may be more flexable to talk and work
with GUI concepts now the the main struggle is out
of the way.
I hope something may come of your work.

Best of luck.

[SnowBord]

unchartered:

About your footnote.. yes it was on the Music for the Jilted Generation (which ROCKS) but the sample actually came from LAWNMOWER MAN!