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3.1 ROMs on ebay....
« on: February 09, 2007, 08:49:57 AM »
Hi guys,
I'm just wondering if these look legit to you?
No offense intended to the seller or anything, I just see a lot of variation in the stickers on 3.1 ROMs.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280078329917&rd=1&rd=1">Ebay ROMs
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Re: 3.1 ROMs on ebay....
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2007, 09:10:52 AM »
There are several different kinds of labels for all "legit" roms too.. Back in the mid 90s there were probably some ESCOM burned 3.1 chips available, but nowadays, who knows. There have been no mask rom 3.1 chips to my knowledge, only burned ones. Some with a window under the sticker, some windowless.

Have you noticed how there's a neverending supply of ROM chips for each model still in every dealer's catalogue?

I'm pretty sure each dealer just burns them on demand and then pays Amigainc some royalties for them.. At least the idealist in me believes they pay. :-)
 

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Re: 3.1 ROMs on ebay....
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2007, 09:23:10 AM »
lol, fair enough. Thanks for that. :)
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Re: 3.1 ROMs on ebay....
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2007, 09:24:08 AM »

Jope : not exactly true... i am writing an ebay guide on this subject.

For the bid, others 3.1 kickstart (A1200, A4000..)  are obviously BURNED eproms too !

luckystrike_it you REALLY sucks !

Moreover official kickstart are still sold online (or by ebayers) like Vesalia (germany), high-tech-beautiful (germany+uk aka GTI/schatztruhe), halbvier (germany), kdhdat66 (germany) or amigakit_dot_com (uk) for often less EUR than luckystrike_it copies... !

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Re: 3.1 ROMs on ebay....
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2007, 10:48:51 AM »
Oh, ok... definitely a case of the buyer needing to be wary then.
If these are copies it's a bit rude putting the copyright logo on the sticker...
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Re: 3.1 ROMs on ebay....
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2007, 11:14:38 AM »
I got mine from AmigaKit ... well chuffed  :-D
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Re: 3.1 ROMs on ebay....
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2007, 11:30:22 AM »
oh just looking at his picture the spidey sense is going completely  :crazy:
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Re: 3.1 ROMs on ebay....
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2007, 11:49:19 AM »
Is everybody sure these are "legit" 3.1 roms that are sold by amiga dealers?  When did Amiga Inc. make these new roms?  Did they make new manuals for the system at the same time?  If they are still producing them are they still supporting them?  Are they working on updates (3.2)?  Are they still making and selling 3.1 OS disks or 3.5 CD's or 3.9 CD's?  There may be a little NOS still floating around but other than that no matter who you buy from there is a very good chance that if they are new roms that they are not made and manufactured by Amiga inc.  If Amiga Inc. is still actively making, supporting, and selling 3.1 roms than by all means buy from them but I don't think this is the case.  If you need a new alternator for your 94 Chevy do you just go to junk-yards hoping to find an original or do you buy a remanufactured or aftermarket alternator?  Think about it.  
 

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Re: 3.1 ROMs on ebay....
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2007, 12:18:53 PM »
I would've thought that when they were originally made Commodore or whoever would have wanted to be prepared for every man and his dog to want their machine upgraded?
Between that kind of volume and the pirating I'm not really surprised if there are still legit ones floating around in the wild.
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2007, 12:24:44 PM »
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not exactly true... i am writing an ebay guide on this subject.

Ah, hope I don't miss it. I'm eager to read any new info about this. :-)
 

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Re: 3.1 ROMs on ebay....
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2007, 12:47:44 PM »
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There have been no mask rom 3.1 chips to my knowledge, only burned ones.


Yes there were.



If anyone can help me with my other thread about Kickstarts I would be grateful. I need to answer a few questions.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27218
 

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Re: 3.1 ROMs on ebay....
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2007, 11:27:59 PM »
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Yes there were.


Yep, those are the same one's in my Miggy right now
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2007, 10:47:18 AM »
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Yes there were.


Amazing. :-)

Do you know whether these were sold as upgrades or inside Amiga Technologies made computers, or both?
 

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Re: 3.1 ROMs on ebay....
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2007, 01:47:59 PM »

Jope : both, that's true A1200 kickstart (Alex picture) as sold by Vesalia, KDH, GTI or Amigakit (non exhaustive list).
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Re: 3.1 ROMs on ebay....
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2007, 04:16:00 PM »
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I'm just wondering if these look legit to you?


Hmmm, looking back thru their ebay history they've sold quite a few.
The labels on their 40.63 ROMs aren't consistant



Then compare to the one on amiga-hardware.com
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