Amiga Inc lost the trademark to "Amiga" on January 3rd, 2003

[ghauber]

@bbrv

I must confess, I am rather appalled at your bad-faith "joke" registration of the Amiga trademark, and the glee with which you constantly make fun of Amiga Inc.  Here's a fact for you: Amiga Inc is *not* dead, and yes, you may not agree with everything they do, but the right thing to do in this circumstance would be to graciously let Bill McEwen sort this issue out with regards to their *own* trademark.

@Wayne

You justify this with the statement that the mark is "officially abandoned" like that justifies it.  Have you thought that something like this can be an easy oversight for a company?  You are blinded by your hatred of Amiga Inc and your desire to see them fail.  Why can't you just let this kind of stuff rest?

@everyone

Well, this is aimed at those mostly who take glee in wanting to see Amiga Inc brought down - there are a lot of people (like myself, for instance) who have invested a *lot* in terms of time, effort (and for some, money) in developing for the Amiga DE, and your attacks on Amiga Inc are therefore also attacks on us.  Please, just get a life and let this be. If you're not interested in the Amiga DE, that's fine, go buy a Pegasos/Morphos machine.  Why you have to be so personal about all this is totally beyond me.

Regards,

Gabriel

[redrumloa]

You are blinded by your hatred of Amiga Inc and your desire to see them fail.

BZZT wrong answer. I could as easily say you are blinded by your hero worship of Bill McEwen. That would be an untrue statement now wouldn't it?

The Amiga market has been unhealthy for too long, people exposed to it see reality a little off center. Trust me, I was there too.

[meerschaum]

Gabriel...While I dont take direct 'glee' in watching Amiga.inc fail I do think that if they do it can only mean good things for the communuty... I pity you guys for following them... my best wishes to you... to them... I have no pity... I dont judge them... I just dont like them and what they've done to amiga... AmigaDE in my opinon was a shallow attempt to milk the name it has about as much to do with amiga as honey has to do with vinegar, the ROM is another milking attempt, the constant BS surrounding them e.g garry hare,offices,phone lines,auction, now this....its just more and more and more nonsense... I dont trust them at all... and I dont think very many people who look at this objectively can trust them either...
I'm not stating anything but my opinon...for what its worth I think you should look at this objectively... .

[ghauber]

BZZT wrong answer

Is it?  Wayne clearly by his repeated statements against Amiga Inc shows he hates Amiga Inc.  He is blinded, because he thinks it would be a *good* thing to obtain the trademark for himself, or see bbrv obtain it.  I didn't say he had a blind hatred of Amiga - he has his reasons and has made his decision.  His follow-on actions here are what I question.

I could as easily say you are blinded by your hero worship of Bill McEwen. That would be an untrue statement now wouldn't it?

Well, what does the evidence of my (few) postings say?

The Amiga market has been unhealthy for too long, people exposed to it see reality a little off center. Trust me, I was there too.

You are assuming I am in the same place now as you once were.  You don't know me, so you have no idea if I am seeing reality "off center" or not.

[ghauber]

...While I dont take direct 'glee' in watching Amiga.inc fail I do think that if they do it can only mean good things for the communuty...

You know, that has *never* made any sense to me.  Why is the "community" so negatively influenced by Amiga Inc that the company failing would be a "good thing for the community".  I mean, really.  Aren't you in control of your own destiny?  If you choose to support a different platform, do so.  Find others who support that platform, and move your "community" there and just forget about Amiga Inc, if you don't wish to be associated with Amiga Inc.

I pity you guys for following them...

Oh, gee, thanks for your generosity here.

I just dont like them and what they've done to amiga...

And that's a fair enough opinion for you to have.  Doesn't justify belittling those who do not agree with your opinion, however, and (I know this may not apply to you directly) it does not justify this "take Amiga Inc down!" attitude evident by so many on this forum.

[Vincent]

Hmmm, I just remembered something.

"registered workbench aswell?"  (or something like that)

I hope that doesn't mean you'll use the Workbench name for MOS! :-x

AOS is WB and WB is AOS.

[odin]

You know, it seems people tend to jump to conclusions very quickly here (I prolly do too). In the sense that when you're saying negative stuff about one 'side' you must be a cheerleader for the other 'side'. And vice versa....

Just keep in the back of (some of your thick skulled) minds that there also is a middleground...where people stand who think that both sides suck to a more or lesser degree.

Y'all just suck!  :whack:

[Tomas]

I can't remember anything saying that BBRV were trying to gain the Amiga name just to screw over Amiga Inc.

What else should he do with it? Buy it then give it back to AmigaINC for free? i really doubt so...

[Vincent]

Tomas wrote:
What else should he do with it? Buy it then give it back to AmigaINC for free? i really doubt so...

I don't think so either, but if they're a registered company, then there's nothing he can do about A.Inc using the name at all.

@odin

I'm also on the middle ground, but I'm more for A1/AOS than I am for Peg/MOS

[odin]

I couldn't care less if Genesi and/or A. Inc gets nuked cos the USA thinks they're producing WMD.

I just want OS4 for my crappy Blizz :-x.

[Targhan]

@Tomas

Relax.

[Dan]

Tulip has the Commodore name but they don´t use it why?
I don´t think anyone has the right to the Loraine name anymore, why not use that for Peg II?
It wouldn´t be more than fair if Amiga DE Inc lost the name as they don´t care for the amiga at all and if BBRV gave it to Wayne or the AROS people it would show all those name followers what the truth is.

[odin]

Tulip is near death AFAIK. (And good riddance).

[ghauber]

Y'all just suck!  

Yay!! Finally, some balance!  :-D

[Tomas]

Targhan wrote:
@Tomas

Relax.

umm aint allowed to say my opinion on this matter before someone tells me to relax or call me a Troll?

I guess this isnt a discussion board is it?

[Targhan]

@Tomas

That isn't it.  It just read like you were about to blow a gasket.