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Re: why choose PPC for OS5? f*@k that. we need x86
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2007, 11:59:15 AM »
@X-ray
Appropriate too considering how long this x86 vs. PPC argument has been going on for! :-D
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Re: why choose PPC for OS5? f*@k that. we need x86
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2007, 12:54:17 PM »
 

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Re: why choose PPC for OS5? f*@k that. we need x86
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2007, 12:59:02 PM »
ahhh sorry koaftder but the one from X-ray is much more elegant :-) (joking)

 

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Re: why choose PPC for OS5? f*@k that. we need x86
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2007, 01:09:37 PM »
man i'm calling the animal rights people...

if os 5 was on pc who would pay out for dragon or shark? seems silly to me looking at the price difference...
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Re: why choose PPC for OS5? f*@k that. we need x86
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2007, 01:19:52 PM »
Platform doesn't really matter too much...

Multi Platform OS would be nice though, PPC AND x86 would be nice.. with a multi format executable like apple have..

Personally I like the PPC approach, if we could get decent hardware out there anyway... Probably if sticking with PPC style the next processor in line should probably be the cell processor....
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Re: why choose PPC for OS5? f*@k that. we need x86
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2007, 01:36:50 PM »
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amiga have made a very very poor decision going with PPC instead of x86 for OS5.

Amiga INC has said that OS5 is planned to be multiplatform and x86 is one of the platforms they had in mind..
 

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Re: why choose PPC for OS5? f*@k that. we need x86
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2007, 01:46:20 PM »
 :roflmao: (at the above pics)

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"who the hell is going to buy a ppc computer?"

Plenty decent embeded devices have one. Let's see, PS3, XBox360, Wii (or whatever that's called ..), many settop boxes also have one (The Dreambox was an excelent example)..

If Amiga wants to get a niche market it has to bet on it's differences that might give it some strenght not try to be like everybody else :lol: PPC is one advantage and with AmigaOS it flies (well, will fly more when some other parts of the OS get updated but it's already good right now).

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Re: why choose PPC for OS5? f*@k that. we need x86
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2007, 01:48:14 PM »
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Oh wow I've been wanting to use this icon thingey for ages... now where is it... ah yes, here --->:horse:


Damn! You beat me to it!

Besides, we already have a Amiga-like x86 (and shortly x86_64 and maybe PPC native) called AROS. I've had quiet enough of having my perferred OS being held captive by either a dead or zomby corp. I ain't going to take it no mo!

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Re: why choose PPC for OS5? f*@k that. we need x86
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2007, 02:06:11 PM »
since it is all vapor anyway...

why not an "INTUITION  tm" cpu
it will be a dual core 128bit cpu with 4 no 6 math units

the video chip will be called anna-marie-lorengo-fanchisi that will be a 1024 bit chip capable of 64 bit planes and 33 million colors on an ntsc or pal tv

the bus chip will be called bustard it will handle pci isa pcix zorro

well keep paula though no need to ugrade that
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Re: why choose PPC for OS5? we need x86
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2007, 04:25:39 PM »
Couldn't agree more with this....why must whoever currently owns Amiga ( pick a year ) always drive it further into the ground. The stuff Amiga Inc currently trys to sell, like software, games, apparel, etc...would have sucked back when Amiga 500 first came out, and I wouldn't have bought any of it then, let alone now. All I want it that you just let us build a nice X86 system, on our own, and develop the OS for us period!!!! Give us a web browser, the ability to watch on web video, etc. like any other OS can do...that's it!........Does anyone really think it is of any value to keep building stuff like new accelerator boards, add-ons, etc... to only get you up to a couple hundred megahertz nowdays, or have heavily patched drivers etc.... I have had several Amigas lately to play around on, and have sold them off when I grew bored with them. The classic machines are stuck in a time warp, you can only do so much. I mean it is insane to pay $1000 for an out of date accelerator when you can buy a brand new X86 kick-ass system for $1000

I am absolutely dying to get back to using the AMIGA OS...but truthfully could care less about the actual computers or hardware anymore, it's stuff that most people threw in the garbage 10 years ago.

Amiga Inc Hyperion or whoever owns OS4 now, I am the person you are trying to sell stuff to....LISTEN TO ME...I want your OS in place of windows or mac or linux....I want your OS to boot my new machine, and run my new machine!!! I want it to not suck like it is 15 years out of date....build it for X86 with the OS5 release, and I WILL BUY IT!!!  :-)
 

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Re: why choose PPC for OS5? f*@k that. we need x86
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2007, 07:52:31 PM »
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well keep paula though no need to ugrade that


Hehe! Nice to see you're fully into the C= way of thinking!  :-)

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Re: why choose PPC for OS5? f*@k that. we need x86
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2007, 08:32:35 PM »
In a nut shell, Amiga are only supporting those, who put there money where there mouth is, and actually went out and bought a ppc amiga, or ppc expansion for there a1200/a4000`s.

Although classic os is not dead, they have to move forward at some point.

Changing from 68000 to ppc was a big jump and risk to take. Then through all that advancment, why would they throw all that away in one passing swop of os 4.0 to os5.0 to take on xxx86.

it would piss off a lot of users and investiors,

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Re: why choose PPC for OS5? we need x86
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2007, 09:08:38 PM »
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Re: why choose PPC for OS5? f*@k that. we need x86
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2007, 10:47:58 PM »
I think it's a good thing that they will support more than one processor family when (if) AOS 5.x comes out.  What concerns me is if it will be able to compete with the new OpenKODE 1.0 specification.  If not they may just adopt it outright.
 

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Re: why choose PPC for OS5? f*@k that. we need x86
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2007, 11:00:11 PM »
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I think it's a good thing that they will support more than one processor family when (if) AOS 5.x comes out.  What concerns me is if it will be able to compete with the new OpenKODE 1.0 specification.  If not they may just adopt it outright.


Yay, another API to learn, just wonderful. Even better, Native C API, so you can expect most developers to be writing their own C++ layers ontop of it, and perhaps open C++ apis on top of OpenKode, of which people will write their own layers of deficiency ontop of the c++ layer on top of openkode. And with time comes rot, so it will probably be a rotten mangled API in 4 years like every other API out there.

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Re: why choose PPC for OS5? f*@k that. we need x86
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 04, 2007, 08:57:35 PM »
What is the Amiga inc. value?

10 Millions $?
20 Millions $?
30 Millions $?
50 Millions $?


What is the Hyperion Entertainment value?

10 Millions $?
20 Millions $?
30 Millions $?
50 Millions $?


So we I Think if not impossible someone make an offer,  buy Amiga inc. and Hyperion , start to produce an OS for X86.

The only problem is that Bill won't sell  . . . .. . .

PPC is out of production in 2012

Legal trouble Amiga inc - Hyperion , is a very damn thing.

I have a friend that can make a good offer.  :rtfm:

Developers are waiting a STANDARD new Amiga,
whitout this , we have no future.



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Amiga 2000 + over the top 040 + oktagon 2008 + tandem cd + Toccata 16 + Picasso II + kick 3.1

Commodore 64 + 1541 + 1541 II + Action replay MK IV
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