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The Burqini
« on: January 16, 2007, 10:21:48 PM »
I just saw this in today's paper.



Doesn't look too practical to me (it looks like it will flap around in the surf).

But...my question is, what is Islam's stance on this woman performing mouth-to-mouth resuscitation on a strange man, should the need arise?
Do the Aussie life-savers have a first aid protocol that doesn't involve mouth-to-mouth?

That photo tickles me, I think it is the Smurf look that does it. But I question how practical it is.
 

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Re: The Burqini
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2007, 10:26:08 PM »
"Looks like a Seal, but tastes like Chicken"
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Re: The Burqini
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2007, 10:51:48 PM »
@X-Ray

And that's how you run, that is... ;-)

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But...my question is, what is Islam's stance on this woman performing mouth-to-mouth resuscitation on a strange man, should the need arise?


Considering the alternative of letting the person die, I am surprised you even have to ask. There's nothing sexual about emergency resuscitation of someone half-drowned. Who would consider being a life-guard if they had any qualms about this?

From the purely religious perspective, I think the following hadith applies quite succinctly: "On the day of judgement, whosoever has saved a life, it will be as if he saved the whole of mankind."

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Do the Aussie life-savers have a first aid protocol that doesn't involve mouth-to-mouth?


No idea, but even I've seen squeeze-bulb resuscitators before. Never actually seen one used though.
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Re: The Burqini
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2007, 11:08:37 PM »
"...There's nothing sexual about emergency resuscitation of someone half-drowned..."
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Well, there's nothing sexual about an elbow or a knee either, if you see what I mean. When there are such strict rules being applied to this woman's dress it is not unreasonable to ask if such strict rules also apply to her bahaviour too, job-related or no.

Squeeze-bulbs: I think you are talking about a hand-ventilator or what is known in hospital jargon as a 'bag.'

That's only useful after you have a controlled oropharyngeal airway (a curved plastic tube of the right size). I don't know if that is beach equipment. I doubt it.
Paramedic, yes. Lifeguard, I am not certain.
 

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Re: The Burqini
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2007, 11:09:45 PM »
lol @ "that's how you run"

She has been caught at a moment lacking of elegance, is the best I can say about it.  :lol:
 

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Re: The Burqini
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2007, 11:13:12 PM »
Actually, looking at that gear a bit more, I might be inclined to mistake that hood as a dorsal fin, when in the throes of drowning.
I might well erroneously assault that lifeguard for fear of my life  :lol:
 

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Re: The Burqini
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2007, 11:16:16 PM »
I think its a really good idea, its an attempt by muslims to integrate into western society and should be hailed.
?وإلل وإلل وإلل, وأت د وي هف هر ثهن
 

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Re: The Burqini
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2007, 11:18:27 PM »
My take on this is that she simply feels uncomfortable wearing  the normal attire for the job which I can only assume is somewhat more revealing (her outfit still seems to be fairly tight fitting so perhaps that's a moot point if those are her reasons).

Anyway, this is presumably about what she regards as appropriate for her appearence rather than the application of life-saving skills appropriate for her job. I don't think you have to be scampily clad as a lady to resuscitate someone by mouth-to-mouth.

Though if the patient is a young man, I dare say it might help :lol:
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Re: The Burqini
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2007, 11:25:19 PM »
Let's face it, if you were drowning and running the risk of being swept away, would you care what the life saver was wearing? Some dude in an Elvis suit would be just fine provided he can do the job properly ;-)
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Re: The Burqini
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2007, 11:26:47 PM »
Well, they have a "Slim" and a "Modest" version.

Slim:



and Modest:



I'm sorry but....... lol?

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Re: The Burqini
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2007, 11:28:14 PM »
"...Some dude in an Elvis suit would be just fine provided he can do the job properly..."
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That dude in the Elvis suit might get to me quicker, due to less drag  :lol:
 

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Re: The Burqini
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2007, 11:30:13 PM »
That's your pyjama set, that is.
That's what you wear in bed.
 

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Re: The Burqini
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2007, 11:34:53 PM »
Looks like the difference between a churidar suit and shalwar kameez to me. The latter being longer and straighter hanging.

In a way, it's a bit sad that we are sitting here taking the p!ss when, as nadoom suggests we should be happy that there muslim people out there training to save lives as opposed to the flavour of the month stereotype of their scheming to destroy them.
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Re: The Burqini
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2007, 11:36:55 PM »
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That's your pyjama set, that is.
That's what you wear in bed.


I don't wear pyjamas...
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Re: The Burqini
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2007, 11:47:03 PM »
"...In a way, it's a bit sad that we are sitting here taking the p!ss when, as nadoom suggests we should be happy that there muslim people out there training to save lives as opposed to the flavour of the month stereotype of their scheming to destroy them..."
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No no no, that doesn't come into this thread at all. It's not like this Muslim woman is the first one to render a vital service to humanity. There are many Muslims doing that already. I should know, I work alongside and indeed FOR them in many cases.
The issue here is the suitability of that swimsuit for the job. It's not a political issue.
It might be a religious issue, but I rate it as a general coffee house topic, know what I mean?
If I was in her position (and this may seem revolutionary) I would probably choose a wetsuit and a swimming cap.