only Amigaos

The OS4 is the only successor of the amigaos, because we like or not, AmigaInc is now the proprietor of amiga, and everything the rest that they take out (morphos,aros in intel etc...) it is not amiga.    
That the Os4 doesn't like? That AmigaInc doesn't like? I find a good opinion (although it doesn't share it), but that this passing with morphos, aros etc.... alone it harms to amiga  because divide to the community, and if we are not now many", then we will be less.    
   
I think that the best thing for the amiga had been that they had united the forces all to take out an operating system that truly surprised in the market and not this.

I can´t cancel this postttt  :-x  :-x  :-x  :-x  :-x

[KennyR]

OS4 is the only "official" successor to AmigaOS. There are many solutions to using an Amiga-like environment at home, and OS4 is only one of them, whether it has the name Amiga or not.

It is not the clones and emulators and spinoffs of AmigaOS that are harming it. These are only symptoms of the main problem - chronic inaction. For 10 years the Amiga has been left to rot by various useless little companies who either had no interest in the Amiga or no resources to run it.

The only thing now that can harm the Amiga is sticking to one of those solutions that doesn't work, and having another decade of inaction by sticking to yet another useless company that simply does not have the vision or resources to make any difference.

[iamaboringperson]

:lol:


are you telling us to boycott alternatives to AOS 4??


this is the funniest thread i have read for quite a while - and im including the joke ones

laugh, if you want.  
Alone I say that I don't find very so many systems for so little community. :-(  :-(  :-(  

[iamaboringperson]

Redentor5 wrote:
laugh, if you want.  
Alone I say that I don't find very so many systems for so little community. :-(  :-(  :-(  

sorry :-)
welcome to amiga.org!!  :-D

[bloodline]

Redentor5 wrote:
The OS4 is the only successor of the amigaos, because we like or not, AmigaInc is now the proprietor of amiga, and everything the rest that they take out (morphos,aros in intel etc...) it is not amiga.    
That the Os4 doesn't like? That AmigaInc doesn't like? I find a good opinion (although it doesn't share it), but that this passing with morphos, aros etc.... alone it harms to amiga  because divide to the community, and if we are not now many", then we will be less.    
   
I think that the best thing for the amiga had been that they had united the forces all to take out an operating system that truly surprised in the market and not this.

I can´t cancel this postttt  :-x  :-x  :-x  :-x  :-x

I for one, like the choice that the current "market" allows. I like choice (I'll stop now, before I start to sound like the Matrix 2).   ;-)

You can cancel the post... Click edit and delete the words  :-D

[Rodney]

Redentor5 wrote:
The OS4 is the only successor of the amigaos, because we like or not, AmigaInc is now the proprietor of amiga

From an official stand point yes. But i believe AmigaOS is the only real Amiga because, it has OS3.1 as its base code. With out that, its nothing, i would have given it all away.  It is the official Amiga, because its the only Amiga.

[KennyR]

But i believe AmigaOS is the only real Amiga because, it has OS3.1 as its base code.

Code wise, OS4 has as much in common with the 3.1 code as AROS or MorphOS - i.e. nothing but lip service.

[bloodline]

KennyR wrote:

But i believe AmigaOS is the only real Amiga because, it has OS3.1 as its base code.

Code wise, OS4 has as much in common with the 3.1 code as AROS or MorphOS - i.e. nothing but lip service.

True, the AOS 3.1 source code is of little use to anyone...

From a technical standpoint, AROS is the closest to AmigaOS 3.1... Thus it is binary compatible on 68k hardware

[xeron]

Code wise, OS4 has as much in common with the 3.1 code as AROS or MorphOS - i.e. nothing but lip service.

Oh really. And how do you know how much source code in OS4 is based on OS3.1 code? And if they were getting rid of most of it, why would they have put so much effort into getting it to build in GCC so that they could stop having to use special Sun based systems to build it?

[KennyR]

Well, you're the coder Tickle, not me - how useful is hardware dependent code (a lot of it in 68k assembler) on a PPC? Wasn't it easier just to clone the API as MOS and AROS did rather than try to recycle this old code?

[MikeB]

AmigaOS4 may be the only official successor to classic AmigaOS, but however there are many AmigaOS-inspired OSes.

To be qualified as being AmigaOS-like or maybe just inspired is very much dependent on the Eye of the Beholder. Some think only MorphOS (in combination with the ABOX environment) and AROS qualify as such, others would include BeOS (and clones), AtheOS, intent and many others on the list as well.

However most modern operating systems which nowadays support advanced multimedia and multitasking features could be considered Amiga-inspired in various ways. And if Amiga application compatibility would make an OS count as a qualified Amiga successor solution then every OS supplied with an UAE solution could fit this decription. Including for example Linux, Windows and MacOS.

[bloodline]

To be qualified as being AmigaOS-like or maybe just inspired is very much dependent on the Eye of the Beholder. Some think only MorphOS (in combination with the ABOX environment) and AROS qualify as such, others would include BeOS (and clones), AtheOS, intent and many others on the list as well.

Well, AROS is AmigaOS like, becuae it is a clone, right down to the smallest sub system... It works just like AmigaOS 3.1 works. Thus if you run it on a real Amiga, Amiga software won't know that it's not running on AmigaOS 3.1...

BeOS, AtheOS.. etc... are Amiga inspired, but they don't work like AmigaOS 3.1 works.
MOS is clever... and is different to all of the above... it's a bit like two OS's running together... hmmm, that's a bad description... nevermind, you get the idea.

[Hooligan_DCS]

For me it's most important to use the OS I enjoy most. I mark today (1.6.2003)  as the day when I officially have no other use for my "main PC" but burning cd's. VNC seems to work very nice with my server, so starting today I am 99% MOS user, at least until next year when I probably have replaced that same PC with AmigaOne and OS4.

You may congratulate me :-)

[realstar]

I have to agree that the source code to OS3.1 really doesn't play much
of a role in these new systems.  The changes involved in rewriting the
entire "exec" and all of the libs/devices, changing APIs, adding new
driver systems, putting emulation functions in and just a general
rewrite of the whole system means changing almost everything in my
opinion.  MorphOS seems to have taken a better approach regarding this
matter by building the "ABox" concept to abstract the classic OS from
interfering with the new  modern kernal/OS.  This means concepts like
real memory protection, virtual memory and multiple processor systems
are implemented in a clean and efficient manner as opposed to trying
to slide it into the old framework.  It is easier to build upon the
classic OS and at the same time bring modern functionality into the
system.  

Recreating OS3.1 or 3.9 is great but doesn't really add anything new
or open any possibilities for the platform to evolve further. This was
one of the problems with Amithlon, it's a fantastic OS3.9 Amiga system
but doesn't add any underlying layer for the future of the platform
and OS.  Meaning, a lot of extra work and time would have to be spent
to bring it up to what's considered modern standards in the industry.
You and I may not care if our OS supports the so called "modern"
standards (it's great anyway, right?), but if we want the platform to
grow and attract new users it is a very important point to
consider...