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Re: Amiga.org Vs Amigaworld.net........Give us your views!
« Reply #89 from previous page: December 28, 2006, 10:30:55 PM »
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Likewise, in this "free Internet world", people assume (badly I'm afraid) that they have the right to say whatever they want, then whine and complain when it offends someone. The Internet, in a very big way, is contributing to the delinquency of society as the very kids who were just getting into computers when the Internet came into popularity are now becoming parents themselves.

Trouble is, having not been taught etiquette, debate, and how to responsibly handle free expression, these "kids" who are now becoming parents have no idea how to raise a responsible child.

I sound very old when I say this, but it's nonetheless very true. Society's ability to co-exist with one another is shifting rapidly into chaos, and it's the ability to get online and slag each other off without fear of reprisal which seems to be at the base of it all.


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This is good stuff, and I agree with nearly everything you've said, Wayne, but I don't think just the ability to verbally hammer others without reprisal is the cause. I'm sure the real cause runs much deeper and is topic for a different forum. There are still many things that are perfectly legal, yet remain socially unacceptable. We're getting to the point in our society where our governments feel it necessary to instate laws that cover every little corner of life because people just can't straighten up and fly right on their own.
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« Reply #90 on: December 28, 2006, 10:35:38 PM »
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adz wrote:
Worst thread EVER!!!!


I'm waiting for a reason to lock it, but havn't seen any flamefest yet to justify locking it.

 :flame:

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I am thinking of moving it to the CH. Moderators opinions? Wayne?
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« Reply #91 on: December 28, 2006, 10:37:14 PM »
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adz wrote:
Worst thread EVER!!!!


I'm waiting for a reason to lock it, but havn't seen any flamefest yet to justify locking it.

 :flame:


That could be arranged. Say the word and I'll call someone for favouring :lol:
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« Reply #92 on: December 28, 2006, 11:35:36 PM »
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Karlos wrote:


That could be arranged. Say the word and I'll call someone for favouring :lol:


Seconded, just say the word boss  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #93 on: December 28, 2006, 11:47:33 PM »
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by jahc on 2006/12/28 2:31:00by jahc on 2006/12/28 2:31:00

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    My $0.02 worth; I never post on AWN nor do I have any desire to do so in the future.


How about commenting on aw.net threads on moobunny? Do you do that?  


Sure do, some of the links on Moo to AWN post are priceless, you can't buy that type of entertainment.  That is where it ends. I do not surf AWN, I simply go to post via links to it. AO, OTOH, I read and contribute content.  I enjoy AO and it's very unusual that I'm not surfing AO on a daily basis.  

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« Reply #94 on: December 28, 2006, 11:53:07 PM »
dialy ?

No DSL  then ?
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Re: Amiga.org Vs Amigaworld.net........Give us your views!
« Reply #95 on: December 29, 2006, 12:19:13 AM »
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You mentioned totally free speech. You mentioned totally free speech.
That is not possible in Europe.
Germany, Turkey and a few other countries here has laws against denying or mentioning some historical events, breaking those laws can lead to prison sentences.
Here in Sweden a site owner was recently sentenced for posts the members of his forum had made, which he did not moderate, and so on.
So basically aw.net can not allow as much "free speech" as Amiga.org can, the server is in France, and thus the French laws apply.


That's really sad to hear. Our history in our country tells us that banning ideas and people's feelings even for ideas we hold to be wrong and not in the interests of the country are still within our free speech amendments.

For instance a few years ago in a local area was subject to a hate group rally. The police didn't stop them from marching due to their rights to free speech even though people in the country hold their beliefs and hatred of specific groups of people to be dangerous. The police ended up coming in to break up violence by other groups when they clashed with them and counter demonstrated.  

It was actually pretty cool to be in the general vicinity of all of it happening and to see the ideals of free speech in action. Mostly because we know that even with radical ideas in play, my nation and it's laws still work. Needless to say the group found the free speech protest useless to their cause and hasn't been back to the area..

Maybe people need not be afraid of radical ideas and notions if the laws in their country support a system of governing that really allow for freedom of expression of it's peoples. They should work to change their laws to allow for the free expression of their people's views.

Either way: I can't see how any "Amiga" based discussion however that might really violate the current in place laws.. I would hate to think that this could be used to justify censorship either way.
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Re: Amiga.org Vs Amigaworld.net........Give us your views!
« Reply #96 on: December 29, 2006, 01:00:27 AM »
What an amazing thread!

all I asked was A.org or Aw.net?

Wayne please can I make sugestions for the site?

please can you remove "The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" from the forum titles?

Please can you add "MorphOS" title and put it underneath AROS then with Amiga emulation under that

like this:

instead of  "Developers"  put  "Operating systems and Emulation"

then


AMIGAOS:
MORPHOS:
AROS:
LINUX PPC:
AMIGA EMULATION:

it would look better.






 

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Re: Amiga.org Vs Amigaworld.net........Give us your views!
« Reply #97 on: December 29, 2006, 01:48:19 AM »
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all I asked was A.org or Aw.net?

If only...
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I personly think A.org is miles better than amigaworld.net becuase you can get away with much more and poeple dont ban you all the time.


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« Reply #98 on: December 29, 2006, 02:16:34 AM »
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My previous message was not solely for your benefit. I'm not defending your comments (far from it), but rather the right of privacy that all channel members should have.

Was it not quoted from a public channel? Then i see no problem here. This is no different from people pasting quotes from forum threads on this forum. If it was in a private message, then that would be a entirely different case. There is no such as privacy in a public chat room and same thing goes for a public forum.
 

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« Reply #99 on: December 29, 2006, 02:24:24 AM »
@Paradox,

There will be a time when all forums, content, and everything else is updated to reflect a new world.  That time will come when the Amiga has new hardware, and new (commercial) software developers -- or the current site completely collapses.  Whichever comes first eh?

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« Reply #100 on: December 29, 2006, 03:13:09 AM »
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redrumloa wrote:

I'm waiting for a reason to lock it, but havn't seen any flamefest yet to justify locking it.

 :flame:

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I am thinking of moving it to the CH. Moderators opinions? Wayne?


Just relegate it to the trash can, you know you want to ;-)
 

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« Reply #101 on: December 29, 2006, 04:16:56 AM »
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dialy ?

No DSL then ?


Ok, I fixed the typo.  :-P

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« Reply #102 on: December 29, 2006, 07:54:08 AM »
With a topic like this the answerr will have to go along the way of "na nana na naaaa na". :insane:

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« Reply #103 on: December 29, 2006, 11:18:57 AM »
we dont want no stinking nannas here !!

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« Reply #104 on: December 29, 2006, 11:35:13 AM »
Hey!  I like nannas.  Good source of potassium..